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I have a Thomas Russell ladies pocket watch. This is working. The serial number is 76572 and the two backs have a symbol of stamp with K18 inside a shape of a bell and dots running up the sides of the bell shape. It is open face with a stem winder and spring button to adjust the time. It belonged to a relative, now deceased. I have no idea how old it is or if it is of any value.Any advice/help etc appreciated.

Trev

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4 hours ago, jdm said:

FYI, we have a dedicated section where is considered polite for new members to introduce themselves first.

Sorry. I have a few watches from a deceased member of family, which are of no interest to the family, except for a ladies pocket watch. I know nothing about watches, 0their date of manufacture or value, so I joined this forum.

Trev Taplin

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10 hours ago, Trev said:

I know nothing about watches, 0their date of manufacture or value, so I joined this forum.

That is fine. However this is a repairers forums, and collectors forums often can offer more collective knowledge. In all cases, as mentioned you need to post pictures front and back to enable others to say. Another way to get an idea of the value of branded watches is to look and compare on chrono24.com.

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1 minute ago, jdm said:

That is fine. However this is a repairers forums, and collectors forum often can offer more collective knowledge. In all cases, as mentioned you need to post pictures front and back to enable others to say. Another way to get an idea of the value of branded watches is to look and compare on chrono24.com.

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