Seiko Echalon shock spring tool

[Colditz]

Is  there a tool for installing the echalon shock spring as used by Seiko? I tried with two pairs of tweezers and it is so difficult. Mark makes it look easy. When I tried it it pings everywhere. I even tried putting a thin plastic bag over it while trying to engage the ends. Failed miserably. I've had to hold this one in abeyance till I get the nerve or the tool to try again.

[jdm]

21 minutes ago, Colditz said:

Is  there a tool for installing the echalon shock spring as used by Seiko? I tried with two pairs of tweezers and it is so difficult. Mark makes it look easy. When I tried it it pings everywhere. I even tried putting a thin plastic bag over it while trying to engage the ends. Failed miserably. I've had to hold this one in abeyance till I get the nerve or the tool to try again.

You mean Diashock, and I assume of the two legs type.

Either use a single set of tweezers, slightly fit one side first then the other. Otherwise file and hollow a pegwood stick to match the size and proceed as in my video below.

However I recommend that one learns to do that with tweezers, to develop dexterity for this and other tasks. 

Edited August 9, 2019 by jdm

[Colditz]

Sorry no not diashock. The spring is not retained. You turn it 45 degrees to release it and it is fully released. Getting it to go back is a daymare.

[Colditz]

[Colditz]

I stand corrected it is a diashock / diafix.

[jdm]

1 hour ago, Colditz said:

I stand corrected it is a diashock / diafix.

That is a Diashock, the Diafix is earlier and different,  you can use either methods from my posting above for 100% sure results. 

Edited August 9, 2019 by jdm

[vinn3]

2 hours ago, Colditz said:

Is  there a tool for installing the echalon shock spring as used by Seiko? I tried with two pairs of tweezers and it is so difficult. Mark makes it look easy. When I tried it it pings everywhere. I even tried putting a thin plastic bag over it while trying to engage the ends. Failed miserably. I've had to hold this one in abeyance till I get the nerve or the tool to try again.

     "get back on the horse" - vin

[Nucejoe]

 If you are using my bag trick( tips on removal/ replace fidly jewels) , stick the sharp point into the palstic bag. 

If you are concerned about pushing on pivots, I often remove the balance wheel, get the sledge, with balance removed you don,t have to be so cautious. 

Perhaps your first encounter, but this one is real easy, you,ll master it quick.

[Colditz]

Oh boy I got the detail totally wrong. The word should have been Etachron and that is not what I meant anyway. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Colditz]

Hi Guys

Just watched the vids and many thanks. I will try the peg wood and bag together. I'll let you know how it goes.

Once again many thanks.

[Colditz]

Insidently the last time I tried the wife wanted  to throw me out as the language was somewhat colourful when the spring pinged for the 30th odd time.

[Nucejoe]

4 minutes ago, Colditz said:

Oh boy I got the detail totally wrong. The word should have been Etachron and that is not what I meant anyway. Sorry for the confusion.

 

Eta+ chron = etachron.    It the first,encounter,mare . 

[Colditz]

Think I'll sound proof the room before the next try.

[Colditz]

Sure is Nucejoe

[Pip]

They can take a bit of getting used to, that's for sure! I certainly had a few ping around the room. There's a great guy called Adrian who runs VTA in Australia, they specialise in vintage Seiko and suchlike. Adrian was kind enough to make a great tutorial video; helped me a lot and following this method I've had no real dramas since.

Hope this helps.

Phil

*Edit - link to the video I was actually talking about!

 

*Edit:The original video I posted below is actually from Mike at My Retro Watches. Another great guy but he's based in the rather less sunny climes of Coventry in England!

 

Edited August 9, 2019 by Pip

[Colditz]

Just wanted to let you  all know the bag and pegwood worked perfectly.

Cheers