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55 minutes ago, berniethebolt said:

Will do.i have had a quick look at the site and noticed a few queries along those lines so of the few different mvts i have i will find the most suitable for my dial then send them a request for their suggestions then go from there.thanks for your input. B

Very smart approach - always ask before buying.

Pick whatever you like... as long as it fits? Or, pick whatever you like, but be careful what you pick?

Posted
2 hours ago, Poljot said:

Very smart approach - always ask before buying.

Pick whatever you like... as long as it fits? Or, pick whatever you like, but be careful what you pick?

dead right although it would be helpful if distributors etc included info on dial size for what case for what mvt for what hands /stem and crown tap size and on and onnnnnnn. i recently purchased a stem for a Oris i was working on and decided i could do with a Oris crown. when i received it i found it was the wrong tap then i found they (C) DO not supply the crown to fit the stem so i was snookered so give up for now thats my moan for this week. over and out B.

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1 hour ago, berniethebolt said:

dead right although it would be helpful if distributors etc included info on dial size for what case for what mvt for what hands /stem and crown tap size and on and onnnnnnn. i recently purchased a stem for a Oris i was working on and decided i could do with a Oris crown. when i received it i found it was the wrong tap then i found they (C) DO not supply the crown to fit the stem so i was snookered so give up for now thats my moan for this week. over and out B.

happens all the time: different sites post different specs, supply wrong or out of tolerances parts, defective parts, etc, etc, etc. I now check parts visually without removing them from packaging (if possible) to make sure it's what i ordered and it's not faulty.

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On 1/13/2021 at 2:12 PM, berniethebolt said:

hi. i to have say i have been interested in various russian movements since i purchased some quite cheaply just to practice on. however i have become keener as i advance and am busy preparing a few for cleaning and servicing. i have noticed that i have identical mvts that have different factory markings! anyway i have this dial i would like to use but although i have plenty of mvts i have no cases. any ideas ? the dial is approx 34mm dia. thanks B

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My guess is that this dial would fit a Raketa cal. 2609.

Posted
16 hours ago, VWatchie said:

My guess is that this dial would fit a Raketa cal. 2609.

you are right i have just fitted it to a 2609.HA and the dial feet are bob on! now to get me a case and strap/bracelet etc. probably cheaper to buy a new watch! B?

Posted
11 minutes ago, berniethebolt said:

you are right i have just fitted it to a 2609.HA and the dial feet are bob on! now to get me a case and strap/bracelet etc. probably cheaper to buy a new watch! B?

Anybody can buy a new watch...

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@VWatchie, thank you so much for posting this detailed service walk-through. I stumbled across this by accident, and decided to take a closer look because I was curious how close the 2409 movement is to the 2414 I'm currently working on. Well, you already know the answer! Was I ever happy!

A story about my 2414: This is the second movement I've completely disassembled in my quest to learn about watchmaking. I pulled it apart a couple months ago, reassembled it for practice prior to cleaning, then disassembled and cleaned it. Had everything ready for final assembly and the first thing I did was break the mainspring. 😞 Fitting the mainspring to the barrel by hand went fine during my trial run, but somehow finger cots simultaneously reduced both my dexterity and IQ...

So, the watch has been apart for a while while I figured out what mainspring I needed and where to get one in Canada. Then it had to ship across the country. And I've sourced a mainspring winder. Then I got COVID (today's the first day I'm feeling mostly normal again). In the back of my mind, I've been wondering how good my memory will be when I finally sit down to put the movement together. I have some reference photos and notes, but nothing like what you have documented. What a gift!

Oh, and I've been looking all over for a 2414 tech sheet with lubrication info. Finding none, I was going to transpose from a Sellita tech sheet and do my best. Can't tell you how happy I was to see the lubrication info you included.

🙏 Thanks and respect to you. 👍

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Thank you for your kind words @RickTock and glad my Vostok cal. 2409 walkthrough could be of help! 🙂👍

I somewhat recently serviced a Vostok 2431 and it uses the exact same type of calendar complication as the Vostok cal. 2414. You'll find my service walkthrough of it here.

Anyway, I'll include the assembly pictures for the calendar works in this post for your and any future Watch Repair Talker's convenience. The only difference is that the cal. 2414 doesn't have what I call the "1st intermediate date indicator wheel" so you can simply ignore that part. I include the picture where the "1st intermediate date indicator wheel" is assembled anyway since it shows lubricating the upper section of the cannon pinion.

Unfortunately, it has become increasingly difficult to source parts for Russian movements as Russian sellers have been banned on eBay.

Good luck with your reassembly!

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Absolutely outstanding photos and details. Fills the gap in technical guides for this movement. 

One question if I may, you didn't apply any lubricant to the back of the sweep second tension spring. Could I put a drop of HP1300 there? The 2409 movement that I am servicing currently had a trace of dried up lubricant on the back of the spring and it doesn't look like it has ever been touched after the factory. 

Posted (edited)
On 10/22/2024 at 3:09 PM, Simeon said:

you didn't apply any lubricant to the back of the sweep second tension spring. Could I put a drop of HP1300 there?

Thanks for your question and apologies for my late reply! You can absolutely apply a drop of oil to the back of the sweep second tension spring, but I would suggest Moebius 9010.

 

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