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Orient 46D40 part needed

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Hi, all. Do any of you have or know where I can obtain a sliding pinion part #47 for an Orient 46D40 movement? I have looked all over the net and there doesn’t seem to be any movements or parts for this one for sale. This is a 21j auto multi year calendar model. I bought a brand new one several years back and was never able to set the hands on it and am just now getting around to tearing it down. The sliding pinion seems to be stripped internally, as the stem just turns freely within it when in the hand setting position and the stem looks fine. Steve

 

 

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You should take it apart. Maybe it's not the clutch wheel. Could be something else? Something easy to fix. The movement looks a lot like a Seiko. So maybe a part from a Seiko could fit? But don't know which. 

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