Could Anyone Provide More Info On The Movement? Eta 853?

[matabog]

Hello!

I bought this watch because of the so beautiful movement (IMO) for about 30$. The case and dial are a bit tired but interesting still and the cleaning will help a bit.

Under the balance wheel there is an ETA 853 mark. But on ranfft there is another picture on the ETA 853 (http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&&2uswk&ETA_853).

Could anyone provide more info on the movement?

 

Thank you,

Bogdan

 

[WillFly]

There seems to be some confusion about what constitutes an ETA 853 movement. There's (1) your picture (2) the Ranfft picture - and also (3) this picture, which I've seen on a couple of websites:

 

And they all appear to have 853 stamped on the movement!

[matabog]

So what's up with that? :))

I say we email ETA: GET YOUR MOVEMENTS STRAIGHT!

[PadraicB]

I've come across this type of variety before, and it's usually the same movement layout for the wheels, balance and even screws, but with variations in the bridge shapes. This looks far worse, since the Dogma seems to have 21 jewels versus the usual 15. Perhaps these are all stock ETA 853 parts but with in-house bridges? Looking online, a lot of these Dogmas have amazing dials:

 

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f11/dogma-spectacular-dial-511307.html

http://en.todocoleccion.net/dogma-15j-calibre-eta-853~x25849547

 

I'm not sure of that red 21 is on the dial or the crystal... I hope the crystal!