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It's the little screw what prevents the domed-top pusher from twisting. It is only found on some models. I need to remove it for the reamer to fit. A week's worth of WD-40 and no budge. Because of the shape there isn't room for good purchase with implements. Brilliant ideas anyone? My 'brightest' is the case back trick- modest application of cyanoacrylate, then an appropriately sized flange nut, then a..deep well socket? Do they make them that small?

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11 minutes ago, RichardHarris123 said:

WD 40 isn't a penetrating oil, so you could try some proper penetrating oil.  One of our members, @Nucejoe, I think swears by Coca-Cola due to the phosphoric acid. 

Is there something special about Coke or would the straight 85% food-grade acid be equivalent?

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I'm as guilty as most people for not following up on posts. I  broke a stem, removing a stubborn back. Just enough stem to grip but couldn't move the crown.  Soaked in coke for 22 hours?, unscrewed easily. 

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I've tried the Coke for rust removal and while modestly effective it is...well, sticky 🤢. I recently paid up for the food grade acid for experimentation. Vigorous effervescence for modest results...l'll follow up on how it goes- thanks...

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Rehajm. The post looks very interesting

Could  I be cheeky and ask?  Any chance of a photograph of the whole instrument. Just so I could understand what I am looking at. Thank you.

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11 hours ago, rehajm said:

Is there something special about Coke or would the straight 85% food-grade acid be equivalent?

Its the phosphoric acid in the coke that breaks down any rust thats seizing up the screw. Nucejoe has a contract with Coke-cola to promote their products.

12 hours ago, rehajm said:

It's the little screw what prevents the domed-top pusher from twisting. It is only found on some models. I need to remove it for the reamer to fit. 

I'm curious as to why the pusher spindle is prevented from turning. Does the spindle have a keyway ?

12 hours ago, rehajm said:

It's the little screw what prevents the domed-top pusher from twisting. It is only found on some models. I need to remove it for the reamer to fit. 

I'm curious as to why the pusher spindle is prevented from turning. Does the spindle have a keyway ?

11 hours ago, rossjackson01 said:

Rehajm. The post looks very interesting

Could  I be cheeky and ask?  Any chance of a photograph of the whole instrument. Just so I could understand what I am looking at. Thank you.

Your next major purchase Ross. A friction jewelling tool.

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2 hours ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

Its the phosphoric acid in the coke that breaks down any rust thats seizing up the screw. Nucejoe has a contract with Coke-cola to promote their products.

It may call for one of those highly scientific, tin foil in the ultrasonic experiments. Let’s see what fizzy beverage has the superior rust removal properties…I’m guessing Mountain Dew Supernova…

2 hours ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

I'm curious as to why the pusher spindle is prevented from turning. Does the spindle have a keyway ?

Affirmative on the keyway…

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…and other than frustrating the watchmaker I also do not understand the benefit of restricting rotation of the pusher. Seitz clearly saw some benefit but the Seitz pamphlet making the rounds looks to be before the addition…

…and no movement yet though the acid worked on the screw a bit. New nippers on the way will hopefully be the shape that allows for a good twist…

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8 minutes ago, RichardHarris123 said:

Not sure whether to laugh or cry for you.  

empathy or schadenfreude does not matter- that you think of me at all is everything 😀...

...so now that I'm accustomed to draining my savings I'm off to see if the pusher stake is a replaceable item...non non non but I see an enterprising someone and has invented the perfect tool to ease my sorrows...

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I have nylon pliers on the way to try to free up the retaining screw so I'll give those a try first, but has anyone ever found one of these in their kit? Does it work? For the price it should but some like to prey on the desperate...

 

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30 minutes ago, RichardHarris123 said:

You could try something like a clothes peg with some of the non slip lining you put in drawers. 

That's exactly what my bride said. Get a peg, then you can use the pliers to squeeze the heck out of it without marking. DIY rules.

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48 minutes ago, rossjackson01 said:

That's exactly what my bride said. Get a peg, then you can use the pliers to squeeze the heck out of it without marking. DIY rules.

I thought we were keeping our marriage a secret, shame on you.  

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News from the front- It is with much sorrow I report that pump poussoir à pompe 105 is no longer with us- dead, deceased, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin’ choir invisible, an ex-pusher. It was fatally freed from the stake by a pair of Amazon 1-day nylon-jawed pliers. (link below) An autopsy reveals a pusher broken from the base- a victim of tight tolerances from the factory combined with a stake slightly out of round at the mouth. The body of the victim was quickly binned as protocol requires (since Thursday is trash day). In lieu flowers neighbors pump pushers 95 and 115 request donations be made to CousinsUK or that lot of 404s you’ve had your eye on in the EBay auction concluding Sunday…

…on a brighter note during the commotion it was revealed the once stuck screw thingie what prevents the pusher from spinning has released its grip, likely due to a combination of stress from pliers and the Phosphoric acid applied yesterday. The remainder of the Seitz tool has been dismantled, inspected, cleaned, lubricated and reassembled. Only the North side indicator has failed to report, perhaps the result of a previous application of now sticky lubricant.

The tool is now returned home and is resting comfortably in its dents in the bakelite tray…

Best wishes to all- don’t forget to hug your tools tonite…

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7 minutes ago, rehajm said:

News from the front- It is with much sorrow I report that pump poussoir à pompe 105 is no longer with us- dead, deceased, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin’ choir invisible, an ex-pusher. It was fatally freed from the stake by a pair of Amazon 1-day nylon-jawed pliers. (link below) An autopsy reveals a pusher broken from the base- a victim of tight tolerances from the factory combined with a stake slightly out of round at the mouth. The body of the victim was quickly binned as protocol requires (since Thursday is trash day). In lieu flowers neighbors pump pushers 95 and 115 request donations be made to CousinsUK or that lot of 404s you’ve had your eye on in the EBay auction concluding Sunday…

…on a brighter note during the commotion it was revealed the once stuck screw thingie what prevents the pusher from spinning has released its grip, likely due to a combination of stress from pliers and the Phosphoric acid applied yesterday. The remainder of the Seitz tool has been dismantled, inspected, cleaned, lubricated and reassembled. Only the North side indicator has failed to report, perhaps the result of a previous application of now sticky lubricant.

The tool is now returned home and is resting comfortably in its dents in the bakelite tray…

Best wishes to all- don’t forget to hug your tools tonite…

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You do know that "hugging your tool" could be taken the wrong way.  Hehe. 

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9 minutes ago, RichardHarris123 said:

You do know that "hugging your tool" could be taken the wrong way.  Hehe. 

I’m glad someone’s paying attention 🧐

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8 hours ago, RichardHarris123 said:

You do know that "hugging your tool" could be taken the wrong way.  Hehe. 

🤔 if you are actually able to physically hug your tool then i honestly think you are in the wrong industry. Ask Ron Jeremy .

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