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Elgin Watch winding stem bolt screw

Seth

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Hi there,I have an Elgin Watch that I am looking at getting back into a wearable state and I am stumped on where the winding stem bolt screw is?? I obtained this watch with a missing winding stem and crown and also a missing second hand but on the good side it is running strongly.Having purchased a lot of vintage stems and crowns I am stumped on how this stem is held into the movement.Any help would be gratefully received.I enclose photos of the movement ( both sides ) and the cased watch.Regards,Seth.

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I was holding back in the hope that a more learned person would come along, but that looks to be a pretty old piece.  I wonder if the stem didn't snap into the case as with the Elgin pocket watches of that era.

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Yes, I believe it is what is known as a negative/reversible setting mechanism. A modified version of of a case sleeve is held to the movement through pressure from the case itself. The sleeve looks like a reversed version of a standard, positive set, case sleeve that threads into the pendant of a pocket watch.

 

 

 

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      Stem removal after fitting hands

      By PeterS · Posted

      Yes, the seconds hand is the longest and goes almost to the edge of the dial. I can’t quite picture it how you do it on the rubber pad
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    • Neverenoughwatches
      Stem removal after fitting hands

      By Neverenoughwatches · Posted

      I think what peter means oh is once he has fitted the hands and  checked for  alignment if them and that they dont foul, how does he then hold the movement to remove the stem in order to case up. The dial cannot be laid on a cushion or in a movement holder as the hands will get damaged. This can be quite tricky for a beginner, what i do is  to stand the movement on edge on a rubber pad so it doesn't slip. Hold the top edge with one finger then my dominant hand uses 3 fingers to press the stem release and flick out the stem. See below peter, leave off the second hand as this is the longest and gets caught the most, then fit it once the stem is out. Alternatively place the movement in one of the cup style holders, i imagine this is what they are designed for. They only touch the very edge of the dial.  
    • PeterS
      Stem removal after fitting hands

      By PeterS · Posted

      Yes I understand that. What I’m asking is, after the hands have been fitted, it’s been checked that the hands do not touch etc. then I need to remove the stem to fit the movement in the case. I have the push type, I need to turn it upside down and push the setting lever post and pull the stem out. But of course the dial and hands are in place and I have a glossy dial with lume dots and I do not want to cause any damage while it’s upside down pushing on the post of the setting lever.
    • oldhippy
      Stem removal after fitting hands

      By oldhippy · Posted

      You have answered your own question. You just push the setting lever nipple in or if its the screw in type unscrew it a little. You should always remove any hands and the dial before putting it in your movement holder. 
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