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I’m working on a an old Soviet watch. Everything was going well till a part magically disappeared from my bench 😞  I’m still learning to be more mindful and organized with my disassemblies. Anyway, I’ve spent hours trying to find a replacement and I just cannot (a) find any manual or related movement with the part (b) find a replacement / substitute movement whose parts are available on cousins. The movement is a PUW 1461. The part was from the automatic rotor assembly. 
here is the link on emmywatch - https://www.emmywatch.com/db/movement/puw--1461/

here are pics of the part during disassembly…

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I’ve reached out to someone on eBay that has a 1461 but no response. I’m wondering if anyone can help me (a) identify the part name (2) or identify the alternate movement for the PUW 1461.

 

thanks so much! 

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21 minutes ago, caseback said:

This site lists a donor movement for €25.

https://uurwerkonderdelen.nl/producten/Occasion uurwerken/14

On the other hand, it doesn't seem to be a very complicated part. You might be able to make one yourself.

That’s an excellent resource, thank you so much! 
I’m curious, when you say make it yourself, how do you mean? Like with some stainless steel metal sheet, and just cut it out? Any online resources to help me understand this better? Thanks as always for helping out! 

1 minute ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

As Caseback has said , you could make one, or else breakout the big magnet and hoover t find the missing part, it's in your room somewhere .

I’m going to give this a last shot before I order the missing part. Thanks!

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Problem with making one , you really need the missing one as a template. It's possible to work from scratch by taking detailed measurements form the plate and it's part interactions along with the pictures you have...... just more complicated. it's a fairly big piece compared to a shock spring.....good  chance you could find it yet 

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6 minutes ago, SiZi said:

I’m curious, when you say make it yourself, how do you mean? Like with some stainless steel metal sheet, and just cut it out? Any online resources to help me understand this better? Thanks as always for helping out! 

But indeed, the first logical step as Neverenoughwatches suggested should be to get a magnet (bar magnets are great) and do more searching. It won't be in the twilightzone. Only socks go there..

 

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No luck. Though the bench is super clean now. Will try to order a replacement mechanism. If not this watch will be a manual wind - from what I’ve read, automatic watches can be simple manual wind ones with the rotor attachment? 

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1 minute ago, SiZi said:

No luck. Though the bench is super clean now. Will try to order a replacement mechanism. If not this watch will be a manual wind - from what I’ve read, automatic watches can be simple manual wind ones with the rotor attachment? 

But some also can't be manually wound and are automatic wind only.

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On further examination, I’ve realized that multiple parts in the automatic assembly are damaged and need replacement. So I’ll be ordering for a replacement unit. Will keep you all posted on how things go. Thanks for all the help! 

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On 11/7/2024 at 4:51 PM, AndyGSi said:

Have you managed to sort this as I've dug a couple out if you need any more detailed photos.

 

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Oh wow! I have a balance assembly coming to me from the US already. If that doesn’t work out for whatever reason I’ll definitely get in touch with you. Thanks for letting me know!

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