Why 2 piece jewel for pallet fork?

[VWatchie]

I'm not sure where I heard it, but it is said that Berguet was asked by Napoleon to make the perfect watch and Breguet replied: "Give me the perfect oil and I will make the perfect watch".

[JohnR725]

11 minutes ago, tomh207 said:

conflicting and potentially confusing information

I personally like the use the word amusing for a description of horological lubrication.

Somewhere in the universe is another discussion group were if lubrication was even mentioned everyone would run away hide in their bunkers until the discussion blew over because the people were extremely opinionated and of course everyone has an opinion.

Then of course we bring in the Internet with lots and lots of information. Plus all the various sources of information YouTube videos for instance they're all looking up their references and we end up with a gross overloading of information of insanity?

 

12 minutes ago, tomh207 said:

so, what am I trying to say? Start with what makes kinda logical sense to the individual and experiment as you gain experience. I don’t think there can ever be a conclusive methodology which is “the one true way” , the reality is if it works for you fine and good, if not then change something and test how it works.

So yes with your own personal watches where you can keep an eye on things then based on what you're seeing you can make course corrections. 

Yes it is an amusing situation isn't it? Even if you exclude a lot of stuff like my amusement. For instance I have a link below and he gives you search results number 40 is interesting. Here's an example of supplemental information. Originally our so-called technical documents appear to be primarily scanned the PDFs for the purpose of parts identification. This is because typically the people using this were either be watch material houses or watchmakers who don't need to know how to lubricate the watch. So many times the so-called technical literature is missing the technical if it was even there at all. Then a lot of the watch companies had supplemental information and as it has nothing to do with parts like the sampling of Omega working instructions found at the link typically you would never see these are never even though they even existed. It's only a relatively modern times to the technical documentation specify separate documents for these other subjects.

For instance I'm attaching a PDF. This was a PDF that I scanned from the physical document which is why you typically don't find it online. So is a perfect example of a supplemental document for Omega on cleaning a lubrication. It does bring up an amusement though which lubrication are they using on the keyless? Plus are they using epilam anywhere?

The yes no matter what with lubrication there is always going to be an issue. We have in the case of Omega where have the most documentation a slow change over time of like that keyless lubrication they're using the words but the number should be 9010 the lightest oil in the land and they're using it on the keyless. Then in individual sheets they did use 9010 later they switch to 9020 so it got heavier and now it's all the way up to HP 1300.

So really for your own personal watches it's best to figure out whatever you like which is what I've done and not worry about what the rest of the world was doing as the subject of horological lubrication is quite fascinating and somewhere in that the word insanity should exist. It really would be nice to have a discussion with the various watch companies and ask why they do whatever they do but I wouldn't be are all surprised if they do whatever they do because that's what they've always done maybe no one has ever questioned the insanity of lubrication not in a factory level?

https://www.cousinsuk.com/document/search?SearchString=Working

 

 

 

Oiling Omega watches 1957.PDF