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Hello good people. A while ago I bought a couple of pocket watches. This one I cannot identify. Same logo appears in the dial, movement and also lid. There is a Finnish brand called Leijona (Lion) but the logo is different. Doesn't run atm, maybe just stuck. I've included some microscope pics. Also, how do I deal with that center wheel? Thanks for any info. 

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2 hours ago, Malocchio said:

Also, how do I deal with that center wheel?

Washer looks interesting? Here is an image of what you're dealing with there is a center pin that goes in the back to the front. You get the minute hand off there is the protruding pin and you just have to tap on that and then the pin itself will come out of the hollow center wheel.

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1 hour ago, JohnR725 said:

Washer looks interesting? Here is an image of what you're dealing with there is a center pin that goes in the back to the front. You get the minute hand off there is the protruding pin and you just have to tap on that and then the pin itself will come out of the hollow center wheel.

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Thanks. It seems that's a relic from the key winding days. Any idea of the movement? Looks pretty common but I haven't found out the maker.

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Probably will make you unhappy but typically I don't look at who made vintage watches on this discussion group. Because tip a clay to find out who made vintage is very difficult although you do have the same symbol everywhere so maybe that can be found. But typically on vintage there just isn't's a lot of information so typically I don't worry about who made vintage watches. But I did see your cano pinions center wheel problem so I replied for that and I noticed something else right now one is looking at pictures. Looks like you have a silver case. That's because you have the 800 number on the back and here's a link it won't help you with who made the watch.

https://www.vintagewatchstraps.com/swisshallmarks.php

Only because I'm here I did take another quick look and not seeing anything here's some assembles but I don't see yours but I'm looking really fast it's past my bedtime. Often times or occasionally when you take the dial lawfully might get something helpful sometimes.

https://www.ccwatchmaker.com/list-of-trademarks1.html

It's amazing what happens if you search for the right keywords online. Such as Lion and Snake Swiss watchmakers Pocket watch. That UNICEF to go through the images and get tortured initially because my dictation software thought I met snakes with an S and now I have to have pictures of snakes in my head when I go to bed hope that won't have a nightmare but it does look like the right symbol with just one snake.

https://www.watchpaper.com/2013/12/24/reborn-of-the-g-gagnebin-cie-brand/

 

 

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Thanks John cant't believe you actually found something on that logo. The pin came out really nice. I also had to replace a cracked 3rd wheel jewel. I reamed the old rubbed in setting out and put a friction jewel in. Luckily I had exactly the right sized jewels that I used in a Zenith a while ago. 

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