Missing table on balance

[ScrewDropper]

I just acquired this watch as a non runner and it turns out the problem is that the  roller table is completely missing.  Other than that, the watch looks fine. Plenty of power to the escapement, judging by the ease in which the pallet fork flicks back and forth and the balance wheel is spinning freely with just a flick of the wrist. If I can get a replacement table (I can always fit the impulse jewel if it doesn’t have one) I think I have the makings of a decent project.  The problem is that I have no idea what the model is and what the balance and staff are going to be in order to source a replacement. Any help would be much appreciated.

 

[Nucejoe]

Have you checked ebay, heres a link to a donor. 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Watchmakers-Spares-Russell-Son-Liverpool-Pocket-Watch-Movement-Spares-Or-Repair/402705295711?pageci=1a80e059-9152-4f7a-bb4e-8ff297a2518f&redirect=mobile

compare bridge layout and winder mech. 

 

[watchweasol]

Hi  you might find a mark and number on the plate under the dial. Be aware that Thos Russel  imported movements and put their name on the dial, so not all Thos Russel watches carry the same movement.

[ScrewDropper]

13 hours ago, Nucejoe said:

Have you checked ebay, heres a link to a donor. 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Watchmakers-Spares-Russell-Son-Liverpool-Pocket-Watch-Movement-Spares-Or-Repair/402705295711?pageci=1a80e059-9152-4f7a-bb4e-8ff297a2518f&redirect=mobile

compare bridge layout and winder mech. 

 

thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, that is a completely different movement

12 hours ago, watchweasol said:

Hi  you might find a mark and number on the plate under the dial. Be aware that Thos Russel  imported movements and put their name on the dial, so not all Thos Russel watches carry the same movement.

Thanks, yes, I understand that Thos Russel is a retailer not a manufacturer which always makes identification more difficult. I’ll check the dial side. I’d checked the movement side but not the dial side. That’s a useful nugget!

[ScrewDropper]

I checked the face side and there is nothing other than the numbers “5 90” (there is a space between the two numbers”

Any ideas? Failing that, does anyone have an idea how I could work out the correct sized roller?

[watchweasol]

If there is no recognisable mark/calibre, post a picture of the keyless work with the setting lever spring clearly depicted,  along with the size of the movement. From there we may be able to find its maker via the Bestfit Books.   Cheers

 

[RichardHarris123]

2 hours ago, ScrewDropper said:

I checked the face side and there is nothing other than the numbers “5 90” (there is a space between the two numbers”

Any ideas? Failing that, does anyone have an idea how I could work out the correct sized roller?

Cool name by the way, how apt for a newbie.  Hehe. 

[ScrewDropper]

64I think I may have found the movement http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&&2uswk&Revue_31 which, if I understand this, means a 2406 balance staff. Looking here https://www.stemandstaff.com/Revue-balance-staffs.eB/s390352p/Revue-balance-staff-31 I see the roller described as “roller 64”. I do not understand what this means? Is it a size, i.e. the diameter of the roller?

 

5 hours ago, watchweasol said:

If there is no recognisable mark/calibre, post a picture of the keyless work with the setting lever spring clearly depicted,  along with the size of the movement. From there we may be able to find its maker via the Bestfit Books.   Cheers

 

I think I may have found the movement http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&&2uswk&Revue_31 which, if I understand this, means a 2406 balance staff. Looking here https://www.stemandstaff.com/Revue-balance-staffs.eB/s390352p/Revue-balance-staff-31 I see the roller described as “roller 64”. I do not understand what this means? Is it a size, i.e. the diameter of the roller?