FE 233-66

[berniethebolt]

hi all.just stripped and serviced a FE 233-66 which i know is a cheaper mvt but will do me until i think i am more proficient.having a problem getting the balance going although it feels free and all the other wheels etc are spinning as they should,but a bit of patience i should be ok.the problem i have is that when i took it apart (carefully) i spotted a spring and a date jumper lying on the mvt but not where they should be and i do not know where they should go.any ideas?.are they for quick date because when i put the date disc and the cover the date changes when winding normally although the stem only seems to come out to two positions!B.

[Nucejoe]

FE 233-66 got date complication.

If memory serves me right, ORIS used FE or cupillard 233 in its vintage manual wind, the movement should be rare and sought after, worth a look in ebay to get an idea.

 

[watchweasol]

Hi Bernie   The detent will fit on the post nearer the date ring with the nose in the ring teeth exactly how the spring fits, just a guess, between the other post and the detent tensioning the detent into the ring the plate will hold them all together.

Attached the FE tech sheet for you.

FE 233-60, 233-66, 233-67A.pdf

[berniethebolt]

26 minutes ago, watchweasol said:

Hi Bernie   The detent will fit on the post nearer the date ring with the nose in the ring teeth exactly how the spring fits, just a guess, between the other post and the detent tensioning the detent into the ring the plate will hold them all together.

Attached the FE tech sheet for you.

FE 233-60, 233-66, 233-67A.pdf 3.08 MB · 1 download

fritted the pieces and seems ok but the date just moves the same as it before i fitted those parts!Weird.

[Nucejoe]

Its just a date complication, no quick set, date changes over at hr 24.

 

[berniethebolt]

yeh i figured that but it worked better without the spring and date jumper1

[Nucejoe]

You should lube the date mech including where jumper and its spring travel.

What kind of amplitude are you getting?

[berniethebolt]

20 hours ago, Nucejoe said:

You should lube the date mech including where jumper and its spring travel.

What kind of amplitude are you getting?

im not.as i said in my post i have everything moving but i could not get the balance to kick in.after a bit of fiddling about i noticed there was too much of the spring showing and then i discovered it had come away from the stud so i have to get that back in then go from there.happy days!

[Nucejoe]

A picture of coil's top view and one of side view, helps.

If you show the stud holder, older versions came with fixed stud holder, on newers  of the same caliber stud holder was changed to mobile stud carrier so putting the impulse in beat is more involved with the older, which you need to do considering the coil needs work.

 

[berniethebolt]

1 hour ago, Nucejoe said:

A picture of coil's top view and one of side view, helps.

If you show the stud holder, older versions came with fixed stud holder, on newers  of the same caliber stud holder was changed to mobile stud carrier so putting the impulse in beat is more involved with the older, which you need to do considering the coil needs work.

 

hairspring off altogether now.

[Nucejoe]

You need a new complete balance.

Its a mobile stud carrier ( beat adjustor).

 

[berniethebolt]

3 hours ago, Nucejoe said:

You need a new complete balance.

Its a mobile stud carrier ( beat adjustor).

 

I thought I might. I will trawl through the suppliers etc and see if it is economical to fix or put the mvt to one side for future use or to sell for spares. 

[Nucejoe]

1 minute ago, berniethebolt said:

I thought I might. I will trawl through the suppliers etc and see if it is economical to fix or put the mvt to one side for future use or to sell for spares. 

Good idea, this one is beyound hope, it looks like you avatar stuck her nose into the coil.  lol