Movement ID; Judex 217 ?

[bsoderling]

Hi guys,

 

Got my hands on another crappy movement...but with a nice dial that would be cool to keep alive.

 

Can’t find any real id printed but some previous tinkerer have scribed in ”judex 217” and also ”F302” but there he apparently changed his mind as there’s a line going across as well.

 

Have searched for judex 217 but can’t find any no’s that high in ranfft or elsewhere.

 

The case back has a lot of french writing on it. Did judex have a french connection or is that just the watch brand?

 

Have attached some relevant pic’s and appreciate any feedback.

 

 

 

 

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[watchweasol]

Hi    There is a little bit of Judex history on the Love Antiques site

[watchweasol]

There is a bit more history on watchuseek regarding the judex and its French origins

[balaton]

58 minutes ago, bsoderling said:

 

Hi guys,

 

Got my hands on another crappy movement...but with a nice dial that would be cool to keep alive.

 

Can’t find any real id printed but some previous tinkerer have scribed in ”judex 217” and also ”F302” but there he apparently changed his mind as there’s a line going across as well.

 

Have searched for judex 217 but can’t find any no’s that high in ranfft or elsewhere.

 

The case back has a lot of french writing on it. Did judex have a french connection or is that just the watch brand?

 

Have attached some relevant pic’s and appreciate any feedback.

 

 

 

 

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Not a Judex movement, but a 9.75''' Jeambrun 217.

Regards.

[bsoderling]

Thanks, I think you’re spot on !

Nothing on Ranfft for that either but found some pic’s on the web that definitely points in that direction.

And Jeambrun sounds french enough...

Next step is to pick it apart and asses the damages. The balstaff is gone to start and the top cap jewel as well. Maybe there is more lurking ”in there”...?

If I’m really lucky, Rogart has some stuff in his drawers... :-)




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[rogart63]

43 minutes ago, bsoderling said:

Thanks, I think you’re spot on !

Nothing on Ranfft for that either but found some pic’s on the web that definitely points in that direction.

And Jeambrun sounds french enough...

Next step is to pick it apart and asses the damages. The balstaff is gone to start and the top cap jewel as well. Maybe there is more lurking ”in there”...?

If I’m really lucky, Rogart has some stuff in his drawers... :-)




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Think i have a movement or two. Recognize the setting lever spring. I will have a look.

[rogart63]

Found a balance staff . Or 3 . But the movement i haven't found yet. If it's the endstone you need i think i have some that would fit. Usually the same size on lots of other movements . 

[bsoderling]

You are spoiling us... :-)

Let me check the details a bit when I have taken the thing apart.

Then I will get in touch over PM.




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[bsoderling]

Besides what I mentioned previously, the parts look ok.

Except...and this is a new thing for me. The roller is cracked along the cylindrical part. Haven’t seen that one before.

Unless I get hold of a ”balance complete”, I guess the only thing to do is to say some prayers and hope it won’t fall apart completely?

Photo is attached and comments/thoughts appreciated.




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[rogart63]

6 minutes ago, bsoderling said:

Besides what I mentioned previously, the parts look ok.

Except...and this is a new thing for me. The roller is cracked along the cylindrical part. Haven’t seen that one before.

Unless I get hold of a ”balance complete”, I guess the only thing to do is to say some prayers and hope it won’t fall apart completely?

Photo is attached and comments/thoughts appreciated.




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Where are all the timing screws?

[bsoderling]

Hmmm...true. Didn’t note that.

Why would anyone remove them (if that’s what happened). ?







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