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I scored a running venus 170 yesterday and am in search of a tech guide. I found the parts list. I also found a tech guide on AWCI however you have to be a member. If anybody has a good walk through and or tech guide Id greatly appreciate it.

 

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Sweet. Thank you. This will be the 3rd movement Ive taken on. Whats crazy is that I havent licked one yet. Lol. I swore to myself no more til I get one. Elgins 642, ETA 7750, now the Venus 170. This whole journey has been a really eye openning experience. Ive always been a watch freak but only when I began to tear them apart have I began to unravel all the facets of horology. Some crazy stuff. Anyhow I wanted to add a column wheel to the list and I couldnt pass it up. Thanks a bunch.

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