OPTIMA watches

[Keylessworks]

I have begun restoration of a very nice ladies watch with a Wadsworth Pilot 25 yr gold filled case and an OPTIMA 15 jewel 2 adjs movement.  I have attached 3 photos for you review.

The inside of the case back shows quite a few watchmaker marks suggesting that this watch has had good care over the years. I was not able to find any info on the "maker mark" on the case back.   The dial does not have any info on it.

I am wondering if anyone can identify this watch and year(s) of manufacture.  I have searched OPTIMA and Wadsworth on the web.  Most Wadsworth info is regarding pocket watch cases.  OPTIMA searches resulted in a German watchmakers name but no catalogs or sales info regarding OPTIMA watches or movements.

I would like to have some history to go along with this watch when I give it to my daughter to wear.

Thanks,

Keylessworks

[mikepilk]

Can you give the size of the movement, and a pic of the keyless works ?

[RichardHarris123]

Anything under the balance wheel or behind the dial?  Optima like other companies used movements from other manufacturers. 

[Neverenoughwatches]

2 hours ago, Keylessworks said:

I have begun restoration of a very nice ladies watch with a Wadsworth Pilot 25 yr gold filled case and an OPTIMA 15 jewel 2 adjs movement.  I have attached 3 photos for you review.

The inside of the case back shows quite a few watchmaker marks suggesting that this watch has had good care over the years. I was not able to find any info on the "maker mark" on the case back.   The dial does not have any info on it.

I am wondering if anyone can identify this watch and year(s) of manufacture.  I have searched OPTIMA and Wadsworth on the web.  Most Wadsworth info is regarding pocket watch cases.  OPTIMA searches resulted in a German watchmakers name but no catalogs or sales info regarding OPTIMA watches or movements.

I would like to have some history to go along with this watch when I give it to my daughter to wear.

Thanks,

Keylessworks

A little googly has provided the name Alb grossenbacher the original founder of the Optima watch company.  A couple of suggestions came up if not in -house made of Felsa and Eta but there could be more that supplied movements to Optima. Follow Mike's advice if you are investigating this for yourself from inside the watch. The other side of the movement under the dial is where you look to find the identifiable parts that point you in the direction of the maker.

[Keylessworks]

Many thanks to all   I will send photos  when I disassemble the pocket watch and try to identify more movement markings.

Sorry  -  not a pocket watch 

Attached is a photo of the movement dial side.  The only marking I have found is a "10" stamped near the movement face edge.  One photo is the bare movement (dial side) with keyless works off and the other is with the keyless works in-place.

 

Thanks for you time !

Keylessworks

I forgot I had a copy of the old Best FIt catalogs.  I found the keyless works which match my Optima movement.   The "10" stamped on the face identifies it as an Optima 10 movement.