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  On 9/8/2023 at 3:26 PM, Nucejoe said:

Loose/ worn  set lever screw or worn stem, back plate might need to be removed. 

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  On 9/10/2023 at 12:27 PM, tomh207 said:

Hi Richard,

I saw that auction earlier and was wondering too as the only incabloc tools I have seen are for jewelling tools, like these.

https://www.cousinsuk.com/product/incabloc-punch-stake-set

Tom

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Yes, I have seen the set cousins offer.  Maybe someone will enlighten us.

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  On 9/10/2023 at 11:54 AM, RichardHarris123 said:

Hello all.  These are part of a job lot on ebay, the description states incabloc removal tool but I'm not sure.  I can't see how they would remove the shock spring or setting. 

Screenshot_20230910_124012_eBay.jpg

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I cant see why you would need anything besides tweezers or a pointy implement to release the spring. Maybe in the plastic container is the pointy part. The driver style handle does suggest you are turning something. Sellers often gets tool uses wrong even the wrong trade use. Tom's link to cousins punches and stumps could be for adjusting the setting height.

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  On 9/10/2023 at 3:11 PM, Neverenoughwatches said:

I cant see why you would need anything besides tweezers or a pointy implement to release the spring.

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You do know that there is more to the setting than just releasing the spring don't you? What if you had to disassemble or remove the entire setting how would you do that with your tweezers?

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  On 9/10/2023 at 5:37 PM, JohnR725 said:

You do know that there is more to the setting than just releasing the spring don't you? What if you had to disassemble or remove the entire setting how would you do that with your tweezers?

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Hi John.  I do John, my reply was to RichardHarris123 in agreement as to how they could or couldn't remove the inca spring itself. 

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  On 9/10/2023 at 6:12 PM, Neverenoughwatches said:

my reply was to RichardHarris123 in agreement as to how they could or couldn't remove the inca spring itself. 

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Are you saying that was a private reply that I wasn't supposed to see oh dear I apologize for seeing something I wasn't supposed to see.

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  On 9/10/2023 at 6:15 PM, JohnR725 said:

Are you saying that was a private reply that I wasn't supposed to see oh dear I apologize for seeing something I wasn't supposed to see.

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@JohnR725, your imput is invaluable and of course you were invited into the thread. @Neverenoughwatches was just confirming that the tools weren't for the shock spring, please do not take offence, texting is inferior to speech, so much is lost. 

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  On 9/10/2023 at 6:15 PM, JohnR725 said:

Are you saying that was a private reply that I wasn't supposed to see oh dear I apologize for seeing something I wasn't supposed to see.

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No not at all john. I mean  my reply was a part answer just agreeing with richard that the tool didnt look like it could be used to remove a spring and why would you need anyting besides a pair of tweezers. I didn't address the use of the tool to remove a setting. Maybe it lifts the cap jewel or pivot jewel or chaton.

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Did you know when people are having bad days it might come out in other ways that may be it wasn't entirely intended?

Oh it would probably help if we had a better picture

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Why do we need a better picture well it would've been nice if the person photographing it done much much better picture but still we need the better picture like above and then we have an amusing problem well not a problem but the question

For instance if you only saw the image I have below what would you think these are

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They look like screwdrivers to me? Then if you look at the other end they appear to be round and Anything I'm doing to enhance the image isn't working there is no detail in the tips themselves other than the physically round. They also come with replacement tips which none of this would be needed to work with the spring on a balance jewel.

So my best guess is there some sort of socket set probably for removing screws on a case back.

Oh and the problem with people selling watch tools are unless they know they will make guesses.

Then yes interesting assortment of tools notice the brass handle things in the middle those are actually quite useful. Not that everything else is useful but those are interesting.

 

 

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  On 9/10/2023 at 7:20 PM, JohnR725 said:

Then yes interesting assortment of tools notice the brass handle things in the middle those are actually quite useful. Not that everything else is useful but those are interesting.

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They certainly are John, i have a set in fact 2 sets i think.  Would you call them deburring tools, oil sink tools, countersinks ? I have feeling there are two types , a type for cutting and a type for smoothing.

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