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Hi all.

Thought I would share this here

A friend of mine at work came back from lunch with a ladies watch she had picked up at a local charity shop, trouble is by the time she got back to work from the shop it had stopped working and asked if I could have a look before taking it back, just in case it was something simple.

So I took it home and just sat down to have a look.

This is what she bought

 

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A nice bit of Swiss Precision Craftmanship.

So I opened it up found what was inside and quickly closed it back up so I can tell her to take it back for a refund

What junk it was, Assembled in Hong Kong god only knows where it was actually made, the balance bearings are plastic, the Pallet is Plastic and the escape wheel is plastic, that was enough for me.

Anyone else seen such junk, the poor thing even paid £12 for it.

 

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27 minutes ago, Paul80 said:

Hi all.

Thought I would share this here

A friend of mine at work came back from lunch with a ladies watch she had picked up at a local charity shop, trouble is by the time she got back to work from the shop it had stopped working and asked if I could have a look before taking it back, just in case it was something simple.

So I took it home and just sat down to have a look.

This is what she bought

 

20220709_124025.jpg

 

A nice bit of Swiss Precision Craftmanship.

So I opened it up found what was inside and quickly closed it back up so I can tell her to take it back for a refund

What junk it was, Assembled in Hong Kong god only knows where it was actually made, the balance bearings are plastic, the Pallet is Plastic and the escape wheel is plastic, that was enough for me.

Anyone else seen such junk, the poor thing even paid £12 for it.

 

Screenshot 2022-07-09 12-44-13.png

Tell her to buy a swatch moonwatch. She can have the whole thing made of plastic for 20 x that. 😆

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30 minutes ago, Paul80 said:

I opened it up found what was inside and quickly closed it back up so I can tell her to take it back for a refund

 

Hmm.. so one spends very little for a bit of bling, but expect to get an hidden gem? These are just humble fashion items, seller is a charity, I would be embarrassed asking for a refund.

 

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You could ask her if she likes how it looks and then investigate dropping in a new (albeit inexpensive quartz or mechanical)  movement to at least get it functional.

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