Car boot clock.

[Neverenoughwatches]

One here for OH and clock boy, just picked this up. I know very little about clocks but i absolutely loved this and had to have it. Great if you can give me any feedback on it please chaps. I cant answer anything just now as im working this afternoon , but  i will as soon  as i get home and look around it.

[RichardHarris123]

  On 6/9/2022 at 11:38 AM, Neverenoughwatches said:

One here for OH and clock boy, just picked this up. I know very little about clocks but i absolutely loved this and had to have it. Great if you can give me any feedback on it please chaps. I cant answer anything just now as im working this afternoon , but  i will as soon  as i get home and look around it.

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I've no idea either, will be interesting to hear their thoughts. 

[Neverenoughwatches]

  On 6/9/2022 at 12:01 PM, RichardHarris123 said:

I've no idea either, will be interesting to hear their thoughts. 

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Good afternoon Richard. Do you actually go to work ?

[RichardHarris123]

  On 6/9/2022 at 12:33 PM, Neverenoughwatches said:

Good afternoon Richard. Do you actually go to work ?

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I'm at work now, watching watch repair videos.  Hehe 

[HectorLooi]

Looks like a musical alarm clock. I restored something like this last year.

[Kalanag]

Looks like a Junghans (Germany):

http://deerbe.com/unt/38417-junghans_reisewecker_mit_walzenspielwerk_um_ca_1900.html

https://uhrforum.de/threads/junghans-offiziersuhr-reisewecker-mit-spielwerk.300676/

https://www.uhrenwerkstattforum.de/t816f28-Junghans-Wecker.html

https://www.willhaben.at/iad/kaufen-und-verkaufen/d/antike-uhr-standuhr-zum-aufziehen-wecker-569262609/

 

Edited June 9, 2022 by Kalanag

[Neverenoughwatches]

  On 6/9/2022 at 12:48 PM, HectorLooi said:

Looks like a musical alarm clock. I restored something like this last year.

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Hector. Yes it is and its beautiful to listen to . I will want to identify the tune. Its has a sub second and an alarm time set on the face. Do you know where your restored one was made ?

  On 6/9/2022 at 11:38 AM, Neverenoughwatches said:

One here for OH and clock boy, just picked this up. I know very little about clocks but i absolutely loved this and had to have it. Great if you can give me any feedback on it please chaps. I cant answer anything just now as im working this afternoon , but  i will as soon  as i get home and look around it.

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Thanks Hector and kalanag. Fantastic help from you both

[Kalanag]

A translated citation from my second link:

„…these movements and case shapes were produced by almost all German watch factories from about 1900 to 1940. With a variety of options: bell, music box, everything that somehow makes noise and shows the purpose of the clock: A toy clock to learn what a clock is and what you can use it for. In the specified time to find in almost every middle-class household to explain a clock to the offspring…

…About the movement itself: Who exactly brought this species to the market first, you will probably never find out. Junghans has claimed this, but it speaks against the fact that these movements were sold in exactly this design by BADUF, Kienzle, Mauthe, Schatz and many others. To my knowledge, Junghans has never issued licenses for replicas (exceptions confirm the rule). Also, these works are knitted quite simply…cheap sheet metal anchor escapement, lantern drives and very coarse gears. In addition, open main springs, very short running time of max. 36h. The housing is made of sheet iron and not particularly thickly nickel-plated. Please look at the aperture on the front with caution. Very thinly pressed brass sheet. The dial is made of cardboard and likes to disintegrate over time.“

Edited June 9, 2022 by Kalanag

[HectorLooi]

  On 6/9/2022 at 1:00 PM, Neverenoughwatches said:

Hector. Yes it is and its beautiful to listen to . I will want to identify the tune. Its has a sub second and an alarm time set on the face. Do you know where your restored one was made ?

Thanks Hector and kalanag. Fantastic help from you both

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Mine supposed to be a Mauthe according to the seller but the mark on the dial is that of HAC. Both were from Germany.

[oldhippy]

Nothing to add. Looks like you have all done the investigating. 

[Neverenoughwatches]

  On 6/9/2022 at 4:41 PM, oldhippy said:

Nothing to add. Looks like you have all done the investigating. 

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I have to figure out how it works now. How to turn off the chime. The tick and toc is very loud.

[Kalanag]

  On 6/9/2022 at 5:54 PM, Neverenoughwatches said:

I have to figure out how it works now. How to turn off the chime. The tick and toc is very loud.

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In the second link there is said that the chime can not be shut off due to the cheap making of the movement 

[Neverenoughwatches]

  On 6/9/2022 at 6:44 PM, Kalanag said:

In the second link there is said that the chime can not be shut off due to the cheap making of the movement 

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I don't think it can. 

[HectorLooi]

Mine has a knurled screw to shut off the alarm. It does so by pushing down a spring bar against a wheel in the chime train.

And yes  the ticking sound from this clock is really loud. Probably amplified by the sound box.

[oldhippy]

When it comes to the sound of the tick this can depend on the type of construction and size of the case. It is an alarm with a 24 hour dial. Looks like the stop alarm is the button above the hand set. 

[Kalanag]

Here is the movement upside down:

https://www.antiques-atlas.com/antique/rare_junghans_early_carriage_alarm_clock/as512a391

I finally found the caliber: Junghans W10 (built 1876-1939)

Translated quote (deutsches uhren museum Blog)

„Alarm clock movement “W10” built millions of times and replicated by other watch companies.

In 1872 the twenty-year-old Arthur Junghans traveled to the United States.  In the motherland of industrial mass production he studied modern production methods. Back in Schramberg he introduced central elements to his company such as the use of stamped parts and simplified housings.

These new "American watches" were created on special machines to save material.  The individual parts were optimized for the fastest possible assembly.

The robust W10 alarm clock mechanism set standards for the entire region.  It was produced in huge quantities until the 1930s.  With this success Junghans rose to become the largest watch factory in Europe, if not the world, by 1910.

The alarm clock from the Black Forest became the cheapest clock at home and abroad.  Thanks to alarm clocks the Black Forest soon covered 60% of world exports of large clocks.“

Edited June 10, 2022 by Kalanag

[oldhippy]

The first link is just a variation it isn't the actual movement. 

[Kalanag]

 

 

 

 

 

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[Neverenoughwatches]

  On 6/10/2022 at 2:40 PM, Kalanag said:

 

 

 

 

 

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Thank you Kalanag.  I can print all this off and add it to my files.

[Kalanag]

  On 6/10/2022 at 9:15 AM, oldhippy said:

The first link is just a variation it isn't the actual movement. 

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Man you are right! I just realiced that I lost the track while searching the net…

It‘s not exactly the caliber 10 but should be the caliber 67 about which I haven‘t found details yet.

The NAWCC forum is a good source for information about the Junghans Joker too.

Edited June 10, 2022 by Kalanag