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15 hours ago, Aimilton said:

Hi

I’m new to watch repair and looking for help in how to remove my 1940’s lemania s27 dial. Can’t locate dial leg screws? Any advice warmly welcomed.

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Alex

Thanks JDM. Sorry, I forgot to add images. As you can see the movement is missing many parts having been used to keep my other black faced version alive. Any help much appreciated 

 

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One dial screw is the tall head one, in the middle on 3rd pic by the brass wheel, the other should be the same. These are eccentrics not screws, observe how they clamp the feet and turn half a turn the most, it could be either direction.

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@jdm beat me to it.

This is definitely one of them....

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See how there is a flange at the bottom of the screw with a flat on it, the flange clamps against the dial foot and even cuts into it a little to hold the dial in place. Turn the screw so that the flat is aligned against the dial foot, about 100 degrees counter clockwise by the look of it, you should feel things loosen up a little when the foot is free.

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This looks like the other one but the focus in your pic is a little off so it's difficlut to be 100% certain.

On closer inspection this is a more likely candidate...

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1 hour ago, Aimilton said:

As you can see the movement is missing many parts having been used to keep my other black faced version alive.

Also I can see that you want to treat this piece gently but using demakup discs is absolutely wrong, these things leave fibers in crazy quantities, that's something that can drive you crazy in troubleshooting. Get a a watchmaker's pad (as well mov.t holders), and you can rest or even drop anything on it in total safety.

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1 minute ago, jdm said:

Also I can see that you want to treat this piece gently but using demakup discs is absolutely wrong, these things leave fibers in crazy quantities, that's something that can drive you crazy in troubleshooting. Get a a watchmaker's pad (as well mov.t holders), and you can rest or even drop anything on it in total safety.

Thanks for all your help and advice. Will get a pad etc ASAP 

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22 minutes ago, Marc said:

@jdm beat me to it.

This is definitely one of them....

C2C3AE7F-BF8F-4B51-B77B-9770449022F6.jpeg.14b164c36091e265c6693e6d9f1b0aa5.thumb.jpeg.c738fb7c56e34bb71ddec18f67a958ef.jpeg

See how there is a flange at the bottom of the screw with a flat on it, the flange clamps against the dial foot and even cuts into it a little to hold the dial in place. Turn the screw so that the flat is aligned against the dial foot, about 100 degrees counter clockwise by the look of it, you should feel things loosen up a little when the foot is free.

6E557D82-EF05-457F-BC0F-DF649A0EDA58.thumb.jpeg.a15e62b45ed4a013e48a8ea98d88dc45.jpeg.829cfa38bb6de0abd7886f4028ba7844.jpeg

This looks like the other one but the focus in your pic is a little off so it's difficlut to be 100% certain.

On closer inspection this is a more likely candidate...

6E557D82-EF05-457F-BC0F-DF649A0EDA58.jpeg.8d10fcde13b791e0a7eae89aa27cd237.thumb.jpeg.c4178ccf291c42ca2f81b5be5137cc93.jpeg

Thanks Marc. Much appreciated 

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