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And some you win ! The engine room is fully functional George with a new battery inserted and would you believe the pointers are moving as well. There is a slight blemish to the left of the tuning fork insignia but I have decided to leave it alone for now and just check the accuracy is ok. The Vendor has put a new brown seiko calfskin strap on it which, though not quite right for the SS watch will also do for now. So I have a fully functional Accutron 2210 - total cost £38.00 which will do for me - question is - will I ever sell it on (wife laughs in the background) - OK probably not. Cheers, Vic

Got some coils delivered for an Accutron 218 (£19.61) but unfortunately the packaging was less than robust. The vendor attached the coils in packets to a bit of card and put them in a bubble envelope which has subsequently been stood on or put through a machine. The postage was free and he says he has sent out lots like this without problem - so just my bad luck I suppose. Initial contact seems positive however, for a replacement or partial refund ! - heres hoping. Cheers, Vic

Here are a couple of PDF's for the 221X mechanism. In the past I have posted info for the 214 and 218 only so this is an addition for Bulova tuning fork Watches. The 2210 has a quite funky tuning fork with its curvy tines. The Index wheel has 270 teeth and the watch Hums at 440HZ which some of the musicians amongst us may recognise. Anyway before I drift off on one here is the info:- Accutron 221.pdf Technical Letters 2.pdf Cheers, Vic

Which Accutron models do you have? I have quite a few parts for the 214 and 218 in stock, as I repair them. Also have the 2200 and 2300 parts as well. I am in the Us not sure where you are located. I will be glad to try and assist you just let me know.

Hey Ricardo, Thanks for sharing the pictures of the accutron. I like it very much especially the double crown that I am guessing is to turn the inner bezel to let one know when...well, when oxygen is running out--It is a diving watch after all! I love the Bulova line and all their quirky case shapes and styles throughout the year. i have discovered that they aren't that easy to work on for a number of reasons, and strangely enough there are some similarities to Omega in their workings. Here are some pictures of the movement of my Oceanographer 666. J Thanks for posting! J

I gotta share this .....I got my first non working 218 Accutron running today . Granted it did humm when I put in a battery , but the index and pawl fingers were both out of alignment with the index wheel and the pawl index finger was bent and twisted . I managed to straighten it out a bit and align both index fingers and jewels with the index wheel including the proper hack spacing on the pawl jewel . I did have to use my 10x loupe and my new new 7x - 45x stereo microscope to do this .....but it's running on my wrist . Step 2 is to take it apart now , clean and lube it and put it back together....YIKES !! I have some spare movements I can practice on . Baby steps at this time . The stereo microscope is attached in the link : http://www.amscope.com/stereo-microscopes/7x-45x-trinocular-stereo-microscope-with-80-led-light-1-3mp-usb-digital-camera.html

From "The Accutron Watch Page"....

Have you tried googling accutron repair uk Comes up with a nice list. So Worldwide there still are few people repairing tuning fork watches out there even though parts are getting hard to find if not perhaps impossible depending upon what you're looking for. After all they came out about 50 years ago and the parts probably weren't met to last forever at least the supply. The link below is somebody repairing electric watches strangely enough he doesn't appear to do quartz watches? Then the really outstanding feature this website is his obsession with electric watches and putting all about on the website. So there's a really impressive website a lot of knowledge on electric watches. Although might not be that helpful apparently he's in the process of moving someplace and won't be taking work in until sometime in December. http://electric-watches.co.uk/service-and-repair/

I am interested to hgear what tools would work to extract a winding stem. I have an accutron in the same boat that I don't want to disassemble.

Hello Warrior Is it possible to have a look at the workings of this watch and the back. It may be that this watch is actually Quartz and not an Accutron type which means we are into a different fix. It looks a tad like the 98B xxx series style. Either way you need to open it up as there are loads of different models of this sort of watch. If it is a tuning fork watch Georges fix may well work providing the right battery has been inserted. More info needed though. Cheers, Vic

You are absolutely right, the oil may be thinned or completely dissolved by the spray (or so is my concern too). I'm just hoping that there is some oily component that prevents the complete loss of lubricant...again, just hoping. As far as the electronic components including coils, it should not harm them at all...otherwise, why advertise it as "quartz movement cleaner"! But again, who knows...My thoughts too, it is to send the watch to an accutron expert. In any case, I wish you much success whatever you decide to do! Cheers, Bob

Thanks for your advice. I haven't seen the quartz quick clean before. It could be handy in some cases. Anyway, I think I'm too afraid to test it with accutron. It will probably flush away all oil from jewels (if there is any left...) and I'm very concerned about coils not to ruin them. I think too that disassembling would be the only right method to clean the movement, but probably its best not to do it myself. I don't have for example stereo microscope for adjusting indexing mechanism...

Thanks both for your advice. I'm not concerned about the accuracy, I'm actually very pleased to it, I'm only concerned if it will make some harm to the movement that the fingers are that dirty. I think it looks like brass oxidation as it is green.... could it be that the watch has been sitting for a very long time, and the index wheel toothed surface has been oxidised? When the new battery has been put to the watch and it has started, the jewels have "brushed" the oxidation away, and it has remained to the jewels? I have cleaned mechanical watches, and I'm not afraid to disassemble the gear train of the Accutron, but I'm not sure if I'm capable to handle the indexing mechanism.... And here in Finland is just a few watchmakers who even knows what a tuning fork watch is and those watchmakers has started on 70's, younger ones haven't even heard about them :rolleyes: . If it is safe to just let it run, I will keep it as it has been until now. If the mechanism is stiff, it will drain the battery quicker, right ? It should run with AG10 battery for approximately 11 months, am I right ? Thanks for your opinions, very appreciated ! It is no use to trying to discuss about technical matters at Finnish FB-groups, people is just bragging about how expensive watches and cars they have .....

Howzit Vic , I'm on a vacation right now , but when I get home I'll post some Accutron pics . I was amazed at a pic of the index mechanism with the teeth on the index wheel visible , the small misalignment of the pawl jewel , and the pile of debris at the end of the index jewels .

Howzit Vic , I moved to a new post . Part 1 was turning into a Novel . You had said that you use altered [ filed , cut ] hypodermic needles to as a tool for the Accutron index /pawl finger collets . Can you please explain that more ? A couple of pics would help . Mahalo , Louis

I can't seem to access the Accutron Page lately . I am trying to get the info on phasing for silver oxide batteries but can't connect . Does any one have this info or is anyone else also also having a problem connecting ? Thanks , Louis

You might also have a look on the accutron site at rephrasing where they also cover the phenomenon called double and triple indexing, if it is not the battery the watch may need rephrasing to resolve issues Cheers, Vic

Thanks I have the accutron post bender and the collet tool also I think if I can find them. Just like to try new ideas. Thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I don't know if Vic will be able to cope with this Accutron porn! It should have read "Booty" not "Bowtie" ;)

Thanks George, I am thinking about stripping away or cutting off some parts of a scrapper to get some pics of the index wheel with jewels in place to try and demystify some of the accutron oddities, but unfortunately I have other stuff calling me so it will have to go on the back burner. I should have mentioned to folk not to use the tools straight away but give them a good clean before every use to get rid of any shavings, one of which would knack the index wheel action if it got into the teeth, blow air through the tubes and ultrasonic if necessary, demagnetise etc, I always have a quick look at mine under the scope. I have to emphasise to all that I am in no way to be considered an expert on Accutrons but muddle along quite happily because I like them. Cheers, Vic

The index pawl should have a gap like the manuel shows but the jewel should touch the index wheel and be centered on the wheel. The crown pulled out the pawl finger should be 1/2 to 1 jewel away from the index wheel. To adjust bend the post that is next to the pawl finger. Once this is adjusted then the pawl plate has a cam shaped screw on the back of the plate, loosen the front screw just enough so you can move the plate with cam screw. This moves the pawl finger on the index wheel. to get watch running you have to adjust both the index and the pawl fingers. If the gap onm the index finger is set then most likely all you have to move is the pawl finger. I have a Accutron microscope but i hardly ever use it, I have a 10 power loupe that I use most of the time. Hope this helps hard to explain on paper. Let me know if you have more questions.

I haven't checked the manual yet , but is adjusting the pawl bridge procedure in there . I know I read about tweeking the pawl finger post to adjust hacking ,...is that what you mean by adjust he index pawl gap ? 1/2 to 1 jewel width away from the index wheel with the crown pulled . I just bought some diabetic syringes and needles to do that . Also , do you use the accutron or a stereo microscope to do your adjustments ? How do I adjust the pawl bridge ? ...A lot of questions I know ,.... But Thanks , Louis

Hello Louis, Pity about the Accutron but the Seiko seems to be a good find and with a new crystal it should be a vintage looker. Cheers, Vic

Thank You , I can assure you that not all of my purchases are a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow . Just in the last week I received an Accutron that was advertised as a non runner . The outside looked good and I thought that maybe all it needed was a stem and crown and a battery .When I opened it , it was a pile of rust . But the Seiko in this post is a nice one and I am always on the lookout for a nice watch at a value .

Hi , I picked up this Bulova Accutron 2182 Deep Sea 666 ft. at the swap meet today . It was not running and I discovered it did not have a battery . That's the good news . Both stems and crowns were frozen in position . The 2 hr stem has a gear that rotates the inner bezel and there is some rust preventing rotation . The 4 hr position stem was stuck in the setting lever and freed up for removal on loosening the setting lever screw . I want to take the crystal out but am not sure how to approach this . I don't know if it is acrylic or glass , and if I should press or knock it out using my nylon press dies , or if I should use a crystal lift for this . Any help is appreciated . This watch is the same as the models that say "Snorkel" on the dial . Mine says "Deep Sea ". The picture I'm attaching is from the internet , but mine is similar . Thanks , Louis