Here we have another What do you think of this.

[oldhippy]

Not hard to see. but can you see it.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/196523594552?itmmeta=01J3QJ72MM1KEBRNXGYJ7K7SYB&hash=item2dc1b81338:g:HuwAAOSwfq9moxO5&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4Av6a4xJvMK12u%2BqUQ5BbHEGLhE2V07LJRSyI%2BFWoT6gIZCPxbkhlgNQzIUVdajnKg0I%2BTxEF%2BVyOdfLY7OSx0GaKa0JKy8PzlXDImNQejmhLE5jT9fse7Q%2B8YFAIO%2FP7hUsC3u2lILpSqv6VFl5x2e7ativznXP0uRF1FK3d4HbKuNzrWfrwrj3WlDxtWTB6iEJX4p0l3fR54lUUzaxyc2aEjVI9PifS8dUujs2WuGHTC5txh33zW5GO8TxfI%2BWQA8uGYkAonOFRvZ6HfA%2BLU7J3gGfkAN6JIAFxIs6mTDF|tkp%3ABk9SR7KqnPKdZA&edge=1

[RichardHarris123]

The click, click spring and whatever you call the block retaining the click spring look out of place.  I'm probably correct, because I'm the font of all knowledge when it comes to clocks.  Hehe. 

[oldhippy]

1 hour ago, RichardHarris123 said:

The click, click spring and whatever you call the block retaining the click spring look out of place.  I'm probably correct, because I'm the font of all knowledge when it comes to clocks.  Hehe. 

I'm sorry to say but you are completely wrong. But I think you expected that. 

[RichardHarris123]

Indeed. 

[Bod]

Click spring cracked?

 

Bod

[Gula67]

Look like you right,is cracked. But that not to hard to repair.

[oldhippy]

Yes the click spring is cracked but that is not the answer I'm after. Here is a hint. It is to do with the whole clock. 

[Waggy]

Maybe the dial, why would "Made in France" be written in English?

[oldhippy]

Waggy you are on the right track. 

[Kalanag]

A German seller offers the same clock on ebay dating it 1900-1944 

[oldhippy]

Is that so well there are a lot of them about. 

[rjenkinsgb]

I believe that from From 1914, it was a legal requirement in some countries to have the country of origin on imported clocks, the "Made in" .... wording, in English?

Having it on a supposed 19th century clock seems unlikely?

 

[oldhippy]

The answer I'm looking for has nothing to do with what is on the dial. 

[Dell]

Looks to be the wrong key.

[Kalanag]

The coloured enamelling is Chinese style, isn‘t it?

[oldhippy]

Kalang I will say you are the winner you are so close. The whole clock is a fake it was made in China.  You mentioned the enameling it is called Cloisonne. It is rough and not mounted well. The complete platforme is cheap rubbish. 

Here is a genuine French Miniature carriage clock timepiece with Cloisonne and you can see the difference.  

Edited July 27, 2024 by oldhippy

[RichardHarris123]

Keep them coming OH, I  might get one right!

[rjenkinsgb]

By chance there is a very similar one, same enamelled panels but with more decoration elsewhere - on a UK auction site, sold for £250.

https://www.rosss.com/lot-details/miniature-carriage-clock/145264/#detTabs1

 

[oldhippy]

1 minute ago, rjenkinsgb said:

By chance there is a very similar one, same enamelled panels but with more decoration elsewhere - on a UK auction site, sold for £250.

https://www.rosss.com/lot-details/miniature-carriage-clock/145264/#detTabs1

 

£250 The poor buyer has wasted all of that. As you can now see it's crap and a fake. I can spot these just by looking at the hands. 

[RichardHarris123]

What would be an average price for a genuine one?

[oldhippy]

You should be able to pick a nice plain one around £200. The one I showed you would be in the thousands. It can also depend on certain makers. A  Drocourt strike in a  gorge case that means it has round moldings would cost you over £12,000. If you are thinking of buying such a clock take photos of it and post here and I can advise you, that applies to anyone wishing to buy antique clocks.