vintage tool Function of Swivel in Vintage Hand Lifting Tool

[Pap3r]

Hi everyone,

I trust you're all well.

I have a vintage hand lifting tool, it works well. I am just not sure what the purpose of the swivel screw is for. The swivel is the one where you can adjust by the brass knob. 

I added pictures. The screw seems to go up and down? Is it just for ergonomics or it has a hand placing function? Anyone familiar with it? Please kindly advise. Appreciated. Thank you. 

Kind Regards,

Pap3r

[Neverenoughwatches]

24 minutes ago, Pap3r said:

Hi everyone,

I trust you're all well.

I have a vintage hand lifting tool, it works well. I am just not sure what the purpose of the swivel screw is for. The swivel is the one where you can adjust by the brass knob. 

I added pictures. The screw seems to go up and down? Is it just for ergonomics or it has a hand placing function? Anyone familiar with it? Please kindly advise. Appreciated. Thank you. 

Kind Regards,

Pap3r

I have a few of these, i was under the impression they are roller removers, look at the tip of the center screw it has a pivot removal hole in it.

[Pap3r]

24 minutes ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

I have a few of these, i was under the impression they are roller removers, look at the tip of the center screw it has a pivot removal hole in it.

I see, thank you. Do you have a demo pic? I am having trouble visualising it. 

[Neverenoughwatches]

38 minutes ago, Pap3r said:

I see, thank you. Do you have a demo pic? I am having trouble visualising it. 

Will do , i have i think 3 or 4 of these stuffed in a drawer all of them have this side hole . I prefer a different tool to remove rollers. A lot of these vintage tools are for pocket watches which i don't work on.  I will have a look though an old tool catalog to see what they are actually listed as , I've heard then called hand removers before. 

 

2 hours ago, Pap3r said:

I see, thank you. Do you have a demo pic? I am having trouble visualising it. 

Found it matey , yes its a roller remover. I felt it is too big for dealing with wristwatches which is why its at the back of a draw.I Iike the simple one piece bradux tool. 

[Pap3r]

2 hours ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

Will do , i have i think 3 or 4 of these stuffed in a drawer all of them have this side hole . I prefer a different tool to remove rollers. A lot of these vintage tools are for pocket watches which i don't work on.  I will have a look though an old tool catalog to see what they are actually listed as , I've heard then called hand removers before. 

 

Found it matey , yes its a roller remover. I felt it is too big for dealing with wristwatches which is why its at the back of a draw.I Iike the simple one piece bradux tool. 

Wow, thank you so much. I have the other small adapter for my tool, which seems to work well for removing wristwatch hands. I'm fairly new to the watchmaking hobby, but I believe a roller remover can assist in fixing a balance wheel, correct?

[Pap3r]

2 hours ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

Will do , i have i think 3 or 4 of these stuffed in a drawer all of them have this side hole . I prefer a different tool to remove rollers. A lot of these vintage tools are for pocket watches which i don't work on.  I will have a look though an old tool catalog to see what they are actually listed as , I've heard then called hand removers before. 

 

Found it matey , yes its a roller remover. I felt it is too big for dealing with wristwatches which is why its at the back of a draw.I Iike the simple one piece bradux tool. 

Also what does the description for No. 4517 say? Got a picture further? Thank you!

[Neverenoughwatches]

51 minutes ago, Pap3r said:

Also what does the description for No. 4517 say? Got a picture further? Thank you!

The tools shown are all roller removers that is the only description, there are also prices quoted from 1899 the date of the catalogue. The 4517 is the tool you and I have, i think i have 3 of them different sizes and also 2 of the 4516 tools.

58 minutes ago, Pap3r said:

Wow, thank you so much. I have the other small adapter for my tool, which seems to work well for removing wristwatch hands. I'm fairly new to the watchmaking hobby, but I believe a roller remover can assist in fixing a balance wheel, correct?

The roller sometimes needs to be removed so different tasks can be carried out to the balance ie. fitting a new staff. Always mark the position of the ruby pin so you can reposition the roller in the correct place. Its position can be worked out but its much easier to mark it before removing it.  Most folks preference is to remove the hands with levers, some may like the correct presto tool. 

[Pap3r]

11 minutes ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

The tools shown are all roller removers that is the only description, there are also prices quoted from 1899 the date of the catalogue. The 4517 is the tool you and I have, i think i have 3 of them different sizes and also 2 of the 4516 tools.

The roller sometimes needs to be removed so different tasks can be carried out to the balance ie. fitting a new staff. Always mark the position of the ruby pin so you can reposition the roller in the correct place. Its position can be worked out but its much easier to mark it before removing it.  Most folks preference is to remove the hands with levers, some may like the correct presto tool. 

Thank you!

[Neverenoughwatches]

14 minutes ago, Pap3r said:

Thank you!

Thats not to say don't use this tool for removing hands, thats something you have to decide for yourself. What works for one person doesn't always work for another and tools are not always used exclusively for their intended purpose. You will know whats right if and when you make a mistake with them.