Pin pallet lubrication

[Bonefixer]

I opened up a 17 jeweled Swiss made movement only to find it has a pin pallet escapement. Not sure where the 17 jewels are but they ain’t on the pallet fork!

Tips for lubrication?

[Neverenoughwatches]

  On 5/6/2024 at 9:14 PM, Bonefixer said:

I opened up a 17 jeweled Swiss made movement only to find it has a pin pallet escapement. Not sure where the 17 jewels are but they ain’t on the pallet fork!

Tips for lubrication?

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Does it say 17 jewels on the dial or on the movement ?

[Waggy]

  On 5/6/2024 at 9:14 PM, Bonefixer said:

Tips for lubrication?

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What works for me (waiting for the villagers to assemble with torches and pitchforks) is to put a liberal (in watch terms) spot of 9010 on one of the pins of the pin pallet, this seems to improve amplitude and beat error.

[Bonefixer]

  On 5/6/2024 at 11:26 PM, Neverenoughwatches said:

Does it say 17 jewels on the dial or on the movement ?

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Both! It’s a Timemaster alarm watch. It has cap jewels over the hole jewels on 3 of the train wheels making 8, 2 on the escapement, 2 on the pallet pivots, and 5 on the balance (including the impulse) making 17. But no pallet stones. And it has a cheap, ‘stamped metal’ sort of bridge/balance cock, an open mainspring barrel, and the alarm spring barrel had a weird arbor/gear hybrid. Not seen that before. 
 

It was interesting to figure out how the alarm works, so learning all the time, but this was definitely a cheap one, despite being ‘fully jeweled’. 

[Neverenoughwatches]

  On 5/7/2024 at 3:22 AM, Waggy said:

What works for me (waiting for the villagers to assemble with torches and pitchforks) is to put a liberal (in watch terms) spot of 9010 on one of the pins of the pin pallet, this seems to improve amplitude and beat error.

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Thats more or less what i do, ive heard a few people recommend dr. Tillwich oil

  On 5/7/2024 at 6:22 AM, Bonefixer said:

Both! It’s a Timemaster alarm watch. It has cap jewels over the hole jewels on 3 of the train wheels making 8, 2 on the escapement, 2 on the pallet pivots, and 5 on the balance (including the impulse) making 17. But no pallet stones. And it has a cheap, ‘stamped metal’ sort of bridge/balance cock, an open mainspring barrel, and the alarm spring barrel had a weird arbor/gear hybrid. Not seen that before. 
 

It was interesting to figure out how the alarm works, so learning all the time, but this was definitely a cheap one, despite being ‘fully jeweled’. 

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All those jewels and non to be had on the pallet ? Could have been  one of those companies like oris that were restricted from using new design features like jewelled levers.

[Waggy]

  On 5/7/2024 at 7:29 AM, Neverenoughwatches said:

ive heard a few people recommend dr. Tillwich oil

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That is what I have moved to, I said 9010 in my post for the sake of simplicity, but what I actually use is Dr Tillwich 1-3 where I would use 9010 and Dr Tillwich 3-5 where I would use HP1300/D5, similarly I use their B52 grease instead of the Mobius/Molycote ones. Only downside I see is that they are all clear, including the grease, so you need to be a little more careful on how much you apply as it's not so easy to see the oil/grease.