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Another experiment - something to hopefully stop cap jewels & retainers escaping like micro tiddledywinks!

I actually got this stuff around the end of last year, but it took weeks to arrive and I pretty much forgot I had it until yesterday..

It's black "crushed velvet" or Velour, according to the original advert - very short, flattened pile fabric.

My idea was that it should be easier to see any escaped small parts, and they are less likely to slide any distance.

It turns out things land on it almost without any bounce at all - and depending on the angle you look at it, it appears either dark or light, so things are visible regardless of colour or reflectivity.

I'm still working on a movement holder or cushion, not directly on it; it's purely as a stray item catcher.

 

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4 minutes ago, rjenkinsgb said:

Another experiment - something to hopefully stop cap jewels & retainers escaping like micro tiddledywinks!

I actually got this stuff around the end of last year, but it took weeks to arrive and I pretty much forgot I had it until yesterday..

It's black "crushed velvet" or Velour, according to the original advert - very short, flattened pile fabric.

My idea was that it should be easier to see any escaped small parts, and they are less likely to slide any distance.

It turns out things land on it almost without any bounce at all - and depending on the angle you look at it, it appears either dark or light, so things are visible regardless of colour or reflectivity.

I'm still working on a movement holder or cushion, not directly on it; it's purely as a stray item catcher.

 

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So i'm gonna ask Rob , what was your original reason for buying black crushed velvet ? Please please tell me it was to line out the tool boxes and containers you were buying a while ago. If it was for making some sort of clothing then i dont wanna know, you can keep those ideas in your own head 😅

My missus tells me frequently, " Rich you can be really funny sometimes and then other times you can just be a complete Pri-k "  I'm inclined to agree with her, actually i have the good sense to never disagree with her 🤣

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1 hour ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

So i'm gonna ask Rob , what was your original reason for buying black crushed velvet ?

As you ask - a possible base "skin" for an animatronic Raven project; the stuff was listed as all-way stretch - but its not. I'm getting some proper animatronics grade material from a specialist instead.

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(I have green baize & red felt for the instrument boxes).

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3 minutes ago, rjenkinsgb said:

As you ask - a possible base "skin" for an animatronic Raven project; the stuff was listed as all-way stretch - but its not. I'm getting some proper animatronics grade material from a specialist instead.

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(I have green baize & red felt for the instrument boxes).

Holy crow batman , well there was absolutely no way i was going to guess that Rob 😵

Just to add to that, cool project and kind of relieved you didn't post a shirt 

Or a dress 😅

Cos i might have wanted you to make me one as well 😅

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Just stumbled on this topic whilst killing time, some excellent suggestions, I'll be giving some a go for sure. I've got a couple of suggestions to throw in, I've been caught out with some poor quality isopropanol before, after thorough cleaning then leaving to dry, next morning rust, and lots of it so came up with this for quick drying.20241009_104458.thumb.jpg.1dad359c122ba8c5e84afefe9ab49df2.jpg

It's commnly known as a greenhouse heater but this is a lot smaller for electrical enclosures (I'm an electrician so this kind of stuff lying about) everything that gets cleaned gets layed out on top, dry in minutes. Especially good when taking a balance out of renata and suspend it in the heat as I've found even renata gets sticky after enough oil contamination.

And one more, by far, the best cleaning agent for disgusting metal watch straps, cases and case backs is TFR, thats traffic film remover, the stuff that gets sprayed on your wheels at car washes. Readily available online. Straps etc. in a jam jar, half an inch of TFR, top up with boiling water till items covered, 20 mins in ultrasonic .... you will be amazed! Disclamer though, this stuff means business, wouldn't recommend anything gold plated or with printed details you want to preserve.

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Not sure how useful this might be, but a while back I bought some bamboo tweezers (multipack with a ridiculous amount of them in) and have been using them in place of pegwood. Seems to be working just fine

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