The watch

[Deebee2024]

Hi

This is the watch I was talking about in my introduction post. It was my Great Granny's watch and I'm going to clean the watch and then find a new winder to replace the missing one. My problem is I cannot get the movement out. I managed to remove the back but I'm now stuck.  How do I remove the movement ? There is a broken screw where the head came off when I tried to unscrew it. The winder is missing and there is a lot of rust. I have some Isopropyl to clean it. I have a watch a little repair kit.  What should I use to  remove the rust? I can see where to remove the strap so I should be able to do that to clean it. 

[RichardHarris123]

I think the movement comes out from the front, so the bezel needs to be removed. I am sorry to say but i think this will be very difficult for a beginner. if you can disassemble the movement, you may find the rust has done extensive damage. I think the part you are asking if it looks right is a dial screw. I can't tell from the photos but is the hairspring in tact?

[nickelsilver]

This will probably come out the top side, you have to remove the bezel holding the glass first. This is a cylinder escapement watch, and given the rust evident on the screws and such, probably not in the best condition. It would be a good idea to find another watch to work on to learn the ropes a bit before going further with this one. The missing winding crown already is an issue- can't tell from the photo but it looks as though the winding stem may be missing, or broken off (or rusted to bits); you almost certainly would have to make or have made a stem for this.

[Deebee2024]

25 minutes ago, RichardHarris123 said:

I think the movement comes out from the front, so the bezel needs to be removed. I am sorry to say but i think this will be very difficult for a beginner. if you can disassemble the movement, you may find the rust has done extensive damage. I think the part you are asking if it looks right is a dial screw. I can't tell from the photos but is the hairspring in tact?

Hi

yes I think the hairspring is intact

 

[Neverenoughwatches]

2 hours ago, Deebee2024 said:

Hi

This is the watch I was talking about in my introduction post. It was my Great Granny's watch and I'm going to clean the watch and then find a new winder to replace the missing one. My problem is I cannot get the movement out. I managed to remove the back but I'm now stuck.  How do I remove the movement ? There is a broken screw where the head came off when I tried to unscrew it. The winder is missing and there is a lot of rust. I have some Isopropyl to clean it. I have a watch a little repair kit.  What should I use to  remove the rust? I can see where to remove the strap so I should be able to do that to clean it. 

1914 then lol

2 hours ago, Deebee2024 said:

Hi

This is the watch I was talking about in my introduction post. It was my Great Granny's watch and I'm going to clean the watch and then find a new winder to replace the missing one. My problem is I cannot get the movement out. I managed to remove the back but I'm now stuck.  How do I remove the movement ? There is a broken screw where the head came off when I tried to unscrew it. The winder is missing and there is a lot of rust. I have some Isopropyl to clean it. I have a watch a little repair kit.  What should I use to  remove the rust? I can see where to remove the strap so I should be able to do that to clean it. 

This is a very difficult old watch for a beginner to tackle,  the case screws suggest it comes out from the front so the broken one is not going to prevent the movement from coming out now that it is broken.  The screw that you point to is a dial foot screw that only needs half a turn to release the dial foot from the screw's sharp shoulder that cuts into the foot. But honestly i would bag it up for another time until you are ready. If you lose anything from this while taking it apart and you almost certainly will, you may well struggle to find a replacement, seriously this is too sentimental to mess with just yet. Beginners perception of what is involved can be way way off what is reality.

[Deebee2024]

Hi Everyone

I am not going to attempt to fix the movement. I want to remove it so I can clean the face. I will then see if the watch/movement can be repaired by a watch expert. If not I'm going to locate a new movement. I just wanted to clean the face my self and have the knowledge to remove the movement.

Thanks 

[rjenkinsgb]

Interesting movement!

 

These appear to be similar ones on ebay, in somewhat better condition, if you need spares?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/294082407812

https://www.ebay.com/itm/335367737161

 

This video shows how to make a simple and reasonably safe rust remover - the recipe is in the video description. I've used it on various things with great success!

 

 

[tomh207]

@Deebee2024 I would advise not trying to clean the dial unless you are 100% sure it is fired enamel. Any other finish is likely to be severely damaged with any technique unless you’re extremely proficient doing dial restoration and really know what you are doing.

 

Tom