I’ll take a counterpoint on the youngsters- all the under 30s in my extended family are into fashion and trends and have varying jobs/careers where the only common denominator is they provide the disposable income to buy watches, sometimes expensive ones. Most are very excited about my ‘new hobby’ and I’m spoiling them on their birthdays this year with a rescue- the weems already went out but here’s the rest… …I’ll share in the guilt of inflating prices for the stuff what once could be had for a few quid. Except for the 404 a good thing I say…

@LittleWatchShop thank you for the advice.  @Neverenoughwatches here are all the angles I could think of. If some are missing I can take more. Sorry for the quality they are taken through a phone.  @Neverenoughwatches here are all the angles I could think of. If some are missing I can take more. Sorry for the quality they are taken through a phone.   Note that after I was so happy to see it oscillate I screwed the cock and it stopped. I have been trying to make it restart since

To get the fork to engage the roller jewel, preset the fork toward the center of the movement.  Then as you are bringing the balance to the movement rotate it 90 degrees CW w/r to its final position.  Then as you drop the balance in, rotate the cock CCW toward the final position. Let the cock rest in the final position as you gently adjust the balance into position.  With power on the train, the balance will engage with the fork and start to oscillate.  That tells you that you have the bottom pivot in place.  Then while holding the cock with a piece of pegwood, adjust the balance until the upper pivot falls in place. This is my method.  I am sure I did not come up with it...saw some video some years back.  Perhaps one of Mark's

Best way to determine if there is an issue with the first balance assembly to take a few pictures of it from a few different angles and post them here. As a beginner it can be difficult to figure out if something is broken or not, you need to know what something in good working order should look like first .

Thanks to this video I undid the tangle.  The spring is still out of round and the watch is still not starting when I put the balance in place.  Since now I have a second movement, I’ll try swapping the balances to confirm that is the issue The result is not very conclusive. Swapping the balance didn’t make the first movement work. BUT, when putting the good balance back in the good movement I had a hard enough time doing it (it did work in the end but I think my problem is managing to sit the balance pivot in its bottom jewel or to fit the impulse jewel into the fork) that I keep wondering if the failure in the case of the old movement is because I broke it or because I am not good enough at reinstalling balances.  I confirm that the main issue is between the seat and the tweezers.  after more effort the first movement with its own bal and ou of shape spring started.  No doubt the time keeping will not be good but IT’S ALIVE!