Where it begins

[Embezelled]

As I wait for my first set of watchmaker screwdrivers to arrive, which is taking longer than I had hoped, I'll post a photo of the small stockpile I made to work on. I'll be starting with the Citizen: the missing crown is my doing. I unintentionally applied pressure from the side and off it came. I've put it aside, and I'm hoping it's detached rather than snapped, and without damage to other parts, but until I have the screwdrivers I can't remove anything to examine the stem section.

Two of the Seikos are are working, quite well actually, although for the price I paid, none of them should really be in "serviced" condition, so after letting them run on one wind, I've left them unwound. 

The Citizen was the cheapest, and so the one I could most bear to go wrong with, although all of them are rather nice watches. I think they're all from the late 50s to very early 60s, but I haven't managed to date them more closely than that.

The Citizen and the Seiko Crown each have a small crack in the crystal, so I'll be hoping to replace those.

 

 

 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by Embezelled

[AndyGSi]

I expect the stem on the Citizen will have snapped but if you're luck they'll be enough protruding from the crown to unscrew it.

Do you know what movement's in the Citizen and what all the movements look like for general condition.

[Embezelled]

The Citizen movement is 3ADJ.

One reason I have some hope that the crown/stem didn't snap is that the end looks clean rather than broken. I've got 2.3 mm of threaded "stem" coming from the cap. Let me see if I can take a picture with sufficient detail to show it.

Edited 7 hours ago by Embezelled

[AndyGSi]

The 3ADJ isn't the calibre it's just how the watch was calibrated i.e. in 3 positions.

A photo of the crown would answer if it's snapped or not.

[Embezelled]

Sorry, beginner error. The inside is marked 3ADJ 59079. That's all I can see. I assume the caseback has the s/n, the only number there is 1307085.

The 2.3 mm I mentioned is as measured from the underside of the cap to the end of the thread. So about 40% of that is the unthreaded part.

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Embezelled

[AndyGSi]

So the stem is snapped and will need replacing but luckily there's enough left in the crown to unscrew without a problem.

Will need to see photos of the movement to identify it.

[Embezelled]

Thanks. Damn, first breakage.

This picture of the movement is from the sale listing.

 

[AndyGSi]

Well I've never seen a Citizen movement like that before.

Can you confirm the size of the movement.

[Embezelled]

To get the full diameter, I'd have to take it out of the case, which I won't be able to do until the screwdrivers arrive. 

I doubt that it's much use to you, but the raised rim on the case, encircling what you see of the movement, has an outer diamter of 28 mm and an inner diameter of 24.8 mm. The case outer diameter is 32 mm.

[AndyGSi]

So it's what people call a Citizen C Mark and was the first centre second movement they produced in 1950.

This lines up with the serial number which dates yours to March 1951.

[Embezelled]

Thank you! That's immensely helpful. I appreciate the trouble you've taken. The initial hiccup aside, I do hope to treat this watch with great care and respect. I've certainly learned one thing not to do, and also just the general need to start out very slowly and very carefully.    

Edited 2 hours ago by Embezelled

[AndyGSi]

You'll need to be extra careful with the Citizen as Information along with Parts and Donors are pretty much none existing.

You'll probably end up having to use a stem extender, that's hoping there's enough stem left in the movement.