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I'm working on an Elgin 12s pocket watch with a broken sleeve in the stem assembly. It appears to be unique in that it has no threads while all other sleeves I've come across have threaded ends similar to that in the second photo. I don't believe this sleeve was part of a threaded assembly because the case appears to have a soldered tube in place of where a threaded sleeve would normally attach (third photo). Since I’m unable to find a direct replacement sleeve, are there any other options available? This watch belonged to my grandfather so I’d really like to get it working again.

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I had looked at Ofrei but it's all threaded sleeves and no 12s sizes. I'm guessing that the reason the sleeve is not threaded is that the bow is fixed and therefore a sleeve removal tool could not access it.

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20 hours ago, oldhippy said:

I think some of them are press ins. I would contact them and ask.

  I think not pressed, but  a "slip  fit",  but if  rusted, hard to get out,  vin

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Thanks for the link,  oldhippy. I contacted Dave and he's got something that should work. Will let you know once it arrives.



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