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6 hours ago, rogart63 said:

Think you should look for 2,00x 1,40 hands and 1,90x 1,10 . Or 200x140 and 190x110. 

Not sure what you are looking for. cousisnuk have this. https://www.cousinsuk.com/product/luminous-horotec-swiss-singles1

thanks all will try to build up a collection and also buy a hand guide so i dont have to fiddle around for hours sorting them out!

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