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Thats what I thought too kinda like a Kif spring, but it wont move. Not sure I'm trying as hard because I wasn't 100% sure I was suppose to move it. Any recommendations as to what you would use to remove it? Thanks

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6 minutes ago, fuse63 said:

I had the same thoughts myself and did try that, but i think i was being too careful not to break it, but im going to give it one more try. Thanks for the help i appreciate it.

Maybe better to leave as is. And clean it in the ultrasonic as is and then oil . Should be fine. Could be hard to find a new part if it breaks? 

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So I solved this issue, someone sent me the hamilton 747 service bulletin and it says to put a screw driver in the slot and turn counter clockwise and it will release the cap jewel. I did it last night and it worked so problem solved.

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11 minutes ago, fuse63 said:

So I solved this issue, someone sent me the hamilton 747 service bulletin and it says to put a screw driver in the slot and turn counter clockwise and it will release the cap jewel. I did it last night and it worked so problem solved.

Thought you had already tried that :) But happy you worked it out. 

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