I have decided to take on a bit of a challenge and ad my contribution to the horological world by designing a custom build using the venus 170. I have spent the last 3 months studying, learning, slaving, crying, destroying, getting to this point in my watchmaking/repairing level. My first attempt was to tackle the Mount Everest (at least to me it is) of movements the 7750. I was met with a lot of belittlement and criticism by a few in other forums. To their point they were correct in many areas however I don't think I would have gone about it in any other fashion. I still have yet to conquer that beast, however I have learned a ton. I am almost there with the 7750. After attempt 6 I have decided to put that movement to the side. I have also spent a great deal of time working on the Elgin 462, which has also been quite a learning experience, and I have also yet to achieve success on that platform. After doing some research and learning about the castle wheel, column wheel, pillar wheel or whatever other terms it goes by I decided to pick up one more challenge. After doing some research and checking the wallet I stumbled onto the ARISTO Imports Chronograph with the venus 170 movement. My goal is to restore this movement and to include it in a custom build. I have ordered several other spares and intend to use them to reach my goal. In addition I intend to finish with a robust walkthrough of this movement. I have already reached out to many folks on this forum as well as reviewed scott mcafee's thorough thread on the movement. I originally wanted to add onto scott's thread but after reading some posts I have leaned that this is not the correct way to go about recording this venture even though logic would say keeping like information together seems well......logical. Anyhow I would ask that anybody and everybody include their comments and knowledge and even opinions. I have thick skin and welcome any and all input. I will do my best to give credit where credit is due. I will start by adding a copy of the Esembl-O-Graf I downloaded from the Ohio State Library. I found several copies but this one has the best quality. I have also included a copy of Ebauches parts breakout guide (If that's what its called). Thank you all in advance.
you can buy a a parts case and pull the stem and sleeve from that one. just make sure the size and manufacturer are the same. if you plan on making a stem you will have to machine so its works with a sleeve if not the stem will just fall out. there are plenty of parts watches and cases on ebay. finding a stem and sleeve on their own is dam near impossible
Thanks- I'm sure one will show up in time. ;o)
Yes, the movements are in-house column wheel chronographs; you might know I'm trying to work my way through all of the manual chronographs of the golden age! They're quite nice though- they do look better in person but feel better than any other watch I've had thus far. Movado made some keepers back in the day.
Here's a couple of Movado Subsea Chronographs from the 1950's that are just about twins. The one on the right (#1) has had a bit of a hard life compared to the one on the left. Gone are the Kris hands from the minute and hour registers. The original crown is missing too and it appears that the pendant tube was modified to make the new crown fit (see bottom pic). It's a terrible shame as this is a Taubert/Borgel case and of high quality craftsmanship. The outer end of the pendant tube has been lost (perhaps filed off) and the cork gasket is long gone.
The Subsea on the right (#2) is in better shape with the original Kris hands, crown, and a movement that appears to have been serviced recently. The lead caseback gasket is gone and replaced with a rubber one and the larger hands are clearly wrong- why have luminous paint on the dial if the hands have none?
The trick here will be to bring both watches back to Movado factory specifications. I doubt I can locate the Kris hands but if anyone knows where I can find a proper Borgel style crown and is willing to share the info that would be greatly appreciated! I picked up an old Mido Multifort which has a similar crown but it would be a shame to steal parts from it as it's otherwise complete.
I've dug through my vintage hand drawer and think I might have the proper hour and minute hands needed for #2.
I wonder if there are there any thoughts on how I could go about fixing the pendant tube on #1? The backup plan will be to just leave it as it is- the watch is vintage and replacing the cork gaskets in the pusher tubes to a level that will ensure reliable water resistance is probably not possible (I don't have the tools and I don't believe replacement cork gaskets can be found). I do love to do restorations though... Any thoughts/suggestions are appreciated.