Sundays Clock Quiz

[oldhippy]

This is easy.

Longcase clocks appearance and style changed over the years.

Put these in order of style.

[wls1971]

I'm torn between number 3 and number 2 as the earliest but I think 3 would be the earliest of the clocks from the very small picture I can see it has half hour markers common to clocks from 1670 to 1705, the hood has barley twist pillars that where in use until 1705 and the minute chapter appears to be on the outer edge of the chapter ring so I think this clock would be 1670 to 1695.

Number 2 is of a very similar period marquetry cases where used on the most expensive cases 1675 to 1720 and only in London the dial has half hour markers so that would move the date to 1675 to 1705 it appears to have a outside minute track so that narrows the date to 1675 to 1695, but the hood pillars are of a rather plain style which I dont think would have been common for that period.

I really think now 2 and 3 are of the same date no later than 1695.

Number one is the latest of the 3 brass dials ran until 1770 moon rollers came in  1770 and ran until 1830 minute numbers at every 5 minutes 1770 to 1800 so I think this must be one of the earliest of the moon rollers and date to 1770.

These are rather inexperienced observations

As a note to anyone interested in clocks I can recommend the following books I am currently reading for dating clocks,

English Domestic Clocks by Herbert Cesinsky and Malcom R. Webster ( rich in detailed illustrations)

English House Clocks, 1600-1850 Anthony Bird ( Good section as it happens on Verge to Anchor conversions in chapter 11 )

White dial clock by B.Loomes

CARRIAGE CLOCKS - HISTORY & DEVELOPMENT by Charles Allix and Peter Bonnert

All out of print but can be bought very cheaply of ebay

 

[oldhippy]

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[nad]

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I'm only a hobby watchmaking enthusiast so can't add anything constructive in answer to your quiz but please hold back on the hair pulling. Personally I find them very informative and educational and add to my enjoyment of this forum.

This one is of particular interest as I've just inherited the family grandfather clock which had been in the family for at least 4 generations. No idea of its age so was planning to post some pictures at some stage. Won't hijack your thread with these now but thanks for your posts and keep them coming.



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[Lenj]

3 1 2..

[oldhippy]

No winner with this quiz. The correct answer is 2 C1695 3 C1730 1 C1840

Early good longcase clocks will most certainly have a glass in the door (sometimes they are called a bullseye). This was so you could see the pendulum. If you come across such a clock and you are not sure if the movement is correct, if you cannot see the pendulum it sure is a different movement. Early Longcase clocks always had narrow long doors. The latter the clock the shorter the door and it will be wide.

Thank you for taking part. Even if it were only two. Members do not be shy next time have a go.

[wls1971]

I shall have to digest my books some more, but thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge I know it has certainly kindled a thirst of knowledge in me, I haven't worked on a watch now for over a month but I have serviced  the following clocks in that time I shall have to post some pictures of them they include a Winterhalder 3/4 Westminster, Lenzkirch ting tang, R and C striking carriage clock, various timepiece carriage clocks, various french striking clocks and  I've an unusual German Blackforest striking clock on the way that I look forward to working on, the only problem with going from watches to clocks is the room they take up !

Many thanks for taking the time,

Wayne

[Murt]

Thanks for the quizzes, but I really wouldn't have a clue where to start to put them in order. I would be only guessing.

[oldhippy]

Thanks for the feedback. wis1971 you should post your work. It will also be interisting for me and others. How about a before and after. It will also be interesting for me and others. How about a before and after.

[rodabod]

I thought number 1 was re-cased. Is that not an Edwardian case?

[oldhippy]

Very few longcase clocks were made in Edwardian times certainly not of this type or quality. It was due to the influx of clocks from Europe and America; they simply fell out of fashion.  

[rodabod]

I just thought the case looked awfully plain. You do occasionally see late-Victorian / Edwardian shell motifs on longcase cases, like the one below:

 

[oldhippy]

The late Victorian Longcase clocks those that were called county clocks were plain and dull and not very good full painted dials. It was also a time where many people were involved in the making. You would have the movement makers, dial makers and painters, false plate makers and cabinetmakers.