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Some posts about the supposed advantage of 'hollow ground' screwdrivers has been moved to our pinned topic on the subject below. Incidentally I'd like to inform fresh members that if they can undertak

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I'm the other extreme. i purchased a Chinese set that look like Bergeon, I have used them for four years now and only dressed them once. That was only because I made a jig for sharpening them. They

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You need to dress your driver of proper width, to the proper thickness.    They all tend to get thicker as they get wider, to handle the torque. 

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I have been using A&F screwdrivers for a few years and only recently purchased some Horotec. However the Horotec I shape the tips (see pic) using their sharper which gives a better grip on most screws. So I now have two sets the A&F & Horotec.

In my option the A&F are really good screwdrivers they just need dressing now & again.

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I love the US based vendors like ofrei, and esslinger but do shop around. It has been cheaper for me to order from abroad and have it expedited to the USA. Usually it saves me anywhere from $100-200. Which makes me think our supply houses here are quite inflated with pricing.

Eternaltools.com has some horotec screwdrivers. And they are a wonderful vendor.

https://www.eternaltools.com/watchmakers-screwdrivers/horotec-9-watchmakers-screwdrivers-set


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As a beginner, so far I'm very happy with Starrett's S-555-7 jewelers screwdriver set.  I like the collets they employ for securing the tips, which are readily available through MSC Industrial Supply.  While they may benefit from a mild dressing here and there, the leverage is good right out of the box and the hexagonal heads prevent them from rolling.  They are sized in inches, but I've yet to be let down by that.  

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On 3/16/2017 at 0:45 AM, clockboy said:

I have been using A&F screwdrivers for a few years and only recently purchased some Horotec. However the Horotec I shape the tips (see pic) using their sharper which gives a better grip on most screws. So I now have two sets the A&F & Horotec.

In my option the A&F are really good screwdrivers they just need dressing now & again.

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Clockboy, the Horotec Sharpener would be Ideal for dressing up all my screwdrivers...I just might get that tool as well.

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On 3/22/2017 at 7:31 AM, Federico said:

I love the US based vendors like ofrei, and esslinger but do shop around. It has been cheaper for me to order from abroad and have it expedited to the USA. Usually it saves me anywhere from $100-200. Which makes me think our supply houses here are quite inflated with pricing.

Eternaltools.com has some horotec screwdrivers. And they are a wonderful vendor.

https://www.eternaltools.com/watchmakers-screwdrivers/horotec-9-watchmakers-screwdrivers-set


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Federico, thanks for the link they seem to be of decent price and I really like the sharpener Clockboy mention to keep the blades dressed up.

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On 3/27/2017 at 0:20 PM, Wesley881 said:

As a beginner, so far I'm very happy with Starrett's S-555-7 jewelers screwdriver set.  I like the collets they employ for securing the tips, which are readily available through MSC Industrial Supply.  While they may benefit from a mild dressing here and there, the leverage is good right out of the box and the hexagonal heads prevent them from rolling.  They are sized in inches, but I've yet to be let down by that.  

Wesley881, I've heard of these before are they based in the USA? They seem well constructed.

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3 minutes ago, clockboy said:

I use both styles. Some of the smaller screws still require the normal shaped headed screwdrivers. I have noticed that some suppliers now sell the Horotech shaped blades see below : However you still need the sharper to dress them.

https://www.cousinsuk.com/product/flat-parallel-bergeon-7895

Thats pretty neat, I think I'm going to save up a little extra and get the Horotec screwdrivers and sharpener so that i wont have to worry about it later. Also Do the Horotec screwdrivers come standard with the T-shaped blades?

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Wesley881, I've heard of these before are they based in the USA? They seem well constructed.


Hi madchops67, They are US-based and you can get replacements online from MSC industrial supply. I had to dress one of the tips up so far, but that's part of it. Lots of strength, even on the .025".

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3 hours ago, madchops67 said:

Thats pretty neat, I think I'm going to save up a little extra and get the Horotec screwdrivers and sharpener so that i wont have to worry about it later. Also Do the Horotec screwdrivers come standard with the T-shaped blades?

They come with standard shaped blades. If my memory serves me well I had to dress them anyway to a normal wedge shape. But later I changed their shape when I purchased the Horotec sharper.  

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Hi bosstaki,

How do you feel for both Horotec and VOH? quality, weight balanced, etc.

I am always know VOH is over-top but I wish to know more about comparing them in term feeling and quality since they look about the same but different so much in pricing. Hope if you could share some of your experience.

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Hi bosstaki,
How do you feel for both Horotec and VOH? quality, weight balanced, etc.
I am always know VOH is over-top but I wish to know more about comparing them in term feeling and quality since they look about the same but different so much in pricing. Hope if you could share some of your experience.





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Hi I can't see the reply post of you. Is there any setting problem?


Hi Ste, there’s not much difference mate between the VOH & HOROTEC mate, they both have the same feel with good grip, they’ve both got the same blue steel finished blades which are ground to perfection, the only difference between both is the horotec has a different roller bearing in the top which you can just see through the tiny hole in the top & the voh has a small black sleeve at the top! They both twist as smooth as silk, like I said mate I had to buy the 250 horotec driver to make up my set mate, I couldn’t find a voh 250 anywhere mate, so I could say I’ve got the best of both, which there both superb!


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There is a vid on youtube about the VOH & the guy purchased one on from eBay but it appears to have been a copy or second. So my advice is purchase from a reputable seller.  I purchased horotec screwdrivers last year & also purchased their sharpner that gives a T shaped head. The VOH also look to be a very good screwdriver as well & their complete boxed set looks to be good value.

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Hello!

I am interested in a stainless steel handle screwdriver set. I oscilate between Bergeon 30081 and Horotec MSA 01.201.

Self lubricating vs ballbearing :)

Thank you!

Bogdan

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these are the links. If its not ok to post the links, I appologise and ask (nicely :) ) the admin to erase them

https://www.watchtools.ch/product_info.php?products_id=202

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-HOROTEC-assortment-of-screwdrivers-wooden-box-9-pcs-MSA-01-201-A-tools/332562785133?hash=item4d6e49636d:g:FgcAAOSwxcRW8sJn

 

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I also have the Horotec Ministand MSA 01.201-D set of screwdrivers and really love them.

When ever other people in my class see them for the first time they also give them favorable comments.

Since buying the set I have bought 2 more of Hortec's screwdrivers, one size bigger for pocket watches, and one size smaller for the screws on hairspring studs

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