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There are a number of second hand tool sellers in USA/Canada (Uncle Larrys Watch Shop, Dashto, Daves Watch Parts, Watch Tools Online) but they mainly have American made tools. If you specifically want Boley you may be better looking on German Ebay, there are often good quality tools listed there. I don't remember seeing anybody listing specific stakes though.

I do remember seeing once a chart that compared the different stake numbers across the different manufacturers, but I can't remember where sorry.

Stephen

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Staking tool companies can use different diameter steel for their stakes. As long as the diameter and lengths are compatible, different brands of staking tools can work in different staking frames. K&D stakes seem to be the most common and Uncle Larry sells individual stakes at a reasonable price. Measure the diameter of the existing stakes you have with a micrometer. Boley stakes should be  in a metric diameter while Marlhall, Levin and K&D will be  in Inch, number or letter diameters.  Let the seller know the size you want before buying them.

david

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In my other staking tool that is now sold. I had a few Star punches. They are made in Switzerland. Sold by Boley.de. They are 4,7 mm .  You also have a comparable list here. 

https://boley.de/en/shop/3159.rivet-punches

cousinsuk has Bergeon  punches that are 4,7 mm in dia. 

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As far as I am aware 4.7mm is pretty much standard for all stakes, European or American. I think the initial American standard was 3/16", I don't know if that is what is still used or it changed to exactly 4.7mm but the are pretty much interchangeable. The only ones I have seen that are different are the Indian made Pearl sets you can buy as new which are 5mm. Of course there could be others I don't know about.

The difficulty comes in the fact that different companies use different reference numbers for stakes, so it's hard to know which number to get. The following pdf was posted last year by tomcolson, this has some compatability details:

https://www.watchrepairtalk.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=10978

Stephen

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If you have the chance, get as many old punch/stake collections as you can... many companies didn't manufacture every variation, so there's always something in every lot that you probably haven't seen before...

Another thing to consider is that if you have a lathe with a 4.7mm collet you can alter/manufacture variations with extra punches that you may need (often doesn't take long to do)

Tom

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You can never have enough punches. I had two staking sets, my own and my masters, plus loads of boxes of them, I even had a small box of punches, which was for cylinders with its little staking unit, and block. You will never use all of them, but their good to have around, because one day who knows.

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Thenk you all for your kind answers!

The punches are 4.7mm and I am trying to get them from Cousins.

@rogart63 Thank you, also! I have seen that page already and and also sent them an email, but I don't think I will receive an asner as it says that "Dear Guest, we sell exclusively to specialised dealers and retailers and not to the end consumer." :)

 

As the rest of you say, I will look for old punches in auctions.

 

Again,

Thank you!

Bogdan

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On 15/9/2017 at 12:52 PM, matabog said:

Hello! 

I just bought a Boley Staking/Jeweling tool and it's missing some punches.

Do you know where I could buy some old/original Boley 4.7mm punches?

Thank you!

Hi! I´m sorry to bother you for this, but I just got a vintage Boley staking tool and I was wondering if you have the user´s manual of yours to share it with me. I hope you don´t mind me asking for it, all the ones I found online are in german and I don´t understand any of it. 

I hope you can help me. 

Thank you a lot! 

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Mine didn't have the user manual, either. But don'worry, it wouldn't have helped you using it. It is just a basic description of the tool.

From what I've searched the internet I found the following:

the german manual: Boley198d_7.7.pdf

some four-languages tables:

 

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boley-triebnietmaschine-4-001.thumb.jpg.00be0b8b2d88c7ac39eb960c5a7ed28a.jpg

boley-triebnietmaschine-5-002.thumb.jpg.a05bf9fb0c855b8da52b94600f1cf80d.jpg

 

I know it is in german but you can use google translate app on your android to translate (just point the camera towards the image on your monitor and the app will translate):

boley-staking-tool-173ga-1962-complete.thumb.jpg.880a35a31fac572028a1834b48f73c42.jpg

boley-triebnietmaschine-1-001.thumb.jpg.d49843bad39e5460a7b2251036a5fc0c.jpg

 

boley-staking-tool-173ga-1962-complete (1).jpg

boley-triebnietmaschine-2-001.jpg

boley-triebnietmaschine-5-003.jpg

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