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By Ballefrostt
Hello
A friend of my father gave me this old pocketwatch to see if I could repare it.
As you see in the picture, the balance wheel is extremely bent. I tried to bend it back, but i cant make it good enough.
Does anyone know where I can find a balancewheel for this Revue 30 movement? I have tried to search around online, however, I cant find any.
Is there a generic balance that would fit in here?
Best regards
Nicholas
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By Bill3
Does anyone have any suggestions about how to get this clock to run? It is a Chelsea ship’s clock. When I got it it would not run, but I attributed that to the fact that it was dirty and had old black oil around the pivots. I carefully cleaned the movement and cleaned the balance wheel separately in naphtha. It reassembled without problems and was oiled,but would not run. If I “add power” to the movement it will run.
I looked at the mainsprings while it was dissembled and they looked clean and intact.
I have included pictures of both sides of the clock and a picture from the side showing the wheel (the one pointed out by the screwdriver) that I can push on to make it run.
Thanks in advance for any help with this vexing problem.
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By VWatchie
I've made up my mind to build a watch around the the ETA 2804-2 (28.800/Manual wind/Date complication). It's diameter is identical to the ETA 2824-2 (25.60 mm), but the height of the 2804-2 is just 3.35 mm, that is 1.25 mm less than the 2824-2. I've been looking around but it seems very difficult (impossible?) to find watch cases designed for the ETA 2804-2, but there are plenty of cases to choose from for the 2824-2. So, I have two questions...
1. Where can I find watch cases designed for the ETA 2804-2, and if that isn't possible...?
2. Would a case designed for the 2824-2 work with the 2804-2? My guess is that it would, but that the case back would be unnecessarily thick?
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By VWatchie
I’m working myself through Mark Lovic’s “Watch Repair Lessons & Courses”. Before enrolling I wasn’t sure the courses would be worthwhile to me, as I had spent a huge amount of time researching the Internet on how to service watches, and had serviced several Vostok 24XX movements (very affordable movements, BTW).
Now, in hindsight, the courses have proved to be extremely valuable to me. I’ve learned things that I just haven’t been able to find elsewhere, like how to easily transfer watch oil from the bottles to the oil pots, how the get the right amount of oil onto the escape wheel teeth, how to remove rust from pinion leaves, that I shouldn’t oil the pallet fork jewel bearings (and why!). The list could be made very long.
Anyway, yesterday I finished the level 2 section of the course, named “Lubrication and Re-Assembly”, and as I beheld the magic of seeing the movement come to life again I shoot a slow-motion video of its beating heart, i.e. the balance wheel. For anyone interested you can see the video here.
Thanks for reading!
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By RadoHelp
Hi,
I have an old Rado Diastar Quartz watch that belonged to my grandpa, but it doesn't work anymore. My dad tried having it repaired once and had a terrible experience with Rado. In the end they flat out said they couldn't repair it and gave it back. The design of the watch seems common to a number of old Rado watches, both automatic and quartz. I can't seem to find a second hand quartz movement but found automatic movements for the same design. Would it be possible to replace the quartz movement with and automatic? I'll add some pictures of my quartz movement and the automatic(ETA2789).
Thanks in advance for any advice!
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I'm attaching an image from the book. You can Google title you can find that it's on Amazon and it seems to come in a variety of versions? It looks like the link below the hard cover is what you definitely want at that bargain price. Even the paperback seems pricey but it does have a really nice section on fixing up hairsprings The book I have is 260 pages so the link is correct sort of. If you go down the page notices a reference to another book same title same author reproduction of the 1954 edition. Notice it's much cheaper and it has way more pages? The last time I remember somebody trying to purchase this book whatever edition they ended up with was missing they hairspring section? Which is always troubling if you recommend a book and it comes in too many versions which makes for confusion. https://www.amazon.com/Bench-Practices-Watch-Clockmakers-Henry/dp/096562191X -
Evening I thought I'd share my modest attic fresh finds less the nasty wrist bands. I bought them mainly for the Sekonda. Both not working, the Sekonda's balance was wrapped round it's rotor. But the Timex really surprised me as it started to work as I adjusted the time. Stopped a bit, and after a bit of shaking and a gentle warming on a radiator I've got it to go. Though it does , run a little slow. The self winding side of it seems to work, however when I go to wind it manually it the crown winds back when you let go. I guess this might be something to do with the click not engaging. -
I finally got it working as it "should" and back together. It ended up being two different things both me installing tiny pieces incorrectly and just a little out of sync. The first issue was the escape wheel/pallet fork that was misaligned and not installed properly which allowed the minute hand, hour hand, main spring barrel and 3 train wheels less the escape wheel to turn when trying to wind the watch and also when the stem was at position 3 for setting the time. Thanks to Poljot for pointing me in the direction of the pallet fork/escape wheel interaction. Once that was corrected, the watch would wind and run but when the stem was in position 3 for setting the time, the cannon pinion on the minute arbor would not turn. After hours of videos, screen shots and guidance by Nickelsilver (Thank you!) this morning I was able to understand how the mechanism was supposed to work which led me to finding that the little sprocket that connects the minute wheel to the auto date change wheel was just a little off center causing the wheels to bind up. Next step is ordering a replacement second hand since the second hand I have has the tip of the second wheel broken off inside it. In addition, I am interested in how well the watch runs and keeps time. Before replacing the dial and second wheel the watch ran -2 sec/day. Probably isn't going to run that good after the work that was just performed so it will def need a service. Thanks again to everyone who contributed and gave me the confidence to continue on. Here are some final wrap up pics. -
I really don't like the term spinning freely as that would indicate a problem. The canon pinion has to have friction on whatever it's attached to. Then pay attention to the posting above By spectre6000. The problem is probably not the Canon pinyin itself it's somewhere in between. Removing or disassembling a watch under power as you found out is not good. All that energy released and went where? The problem with this section of the watch is in order to get here basically the entire watch has to be disassembled. you took your watch to these people to have them butcher the watch did you complain about it afterwards? Most people who pay usually a lot of money to get the Rolex serviced expected to be perfect not destroyed seems more like this would be a warranty issue except of course they're incompetent which would be a problem. Do these people advertise that they service Rolex watches? I'm going to disagree? Often times in watch repair you need a dramatic lesson to grasp that watch repair isn't really this easy. It takes a lot of time and practice learning to successfully to service a watch. For some people they need to start with a Rolex and destroy it to grasp that. Others need to start with a prized family watch and destroy it. Having the entire family criticize you every time you meet them might actually sink in perhaps. Really nice when I can quote other people that have my thoughts. Now we come to the it should be the end but? Where do you want to go with this? Normally people on this group learning watch repair one a learn all of watch repair of unlike just how you can fix my Rolex quickly when this Rolex was butchered before and need to complete servicing. So even if we can help you find the problem and you fix it this watch still need to complete servicing. That's because it's now very dirty from you taken apart and putting it back together and the lubrication has been hopelessly destroyed by taking it apart and putting it back together. Plus whoever serviced it before was incompetent so that alone means the watch needs to be serviced again. Then the cost of sending a Rolex anywhere to get it serviced is expensive because it's expensive watch the components are expensive. But if it's had prior to DIY servicing the cost will go up considerably. Then where do we want to go if you want to continue to fix your watch? He can't really service the watch and you find a problem anyway. There's really no good way to do this and yes we really need the pictures of your watch.someone else's watch because their watches running yours is not. We can't trust your eyes and diagnostic skills as you're a newbie. But in the absence of anything up like to do why did she put the balance wheel and pallet fork back in. Mina to verify that the watch runs and more than a few minutes would be ideal. Make sure the winding works don't worry about the setting. I suspect the problem is on the dial side but it's anything and everything is possible with this watch
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hokavan 14
Hi all,
I broke the pivot of balance wheel on ETA 2804-2.
I bought a generic complete balance wheel with bridge for ETA 2824-2 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/262234041099?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT) and tried to install it without any difficulty. There is only a difference between the new and old one is the shock assemblies (Incabloc vs Novodiac). In the photo below, the new one is the yeallow on the right hand side.
My question are:
- Is the complete balance wheel and bridge replaceable between those movements?
- If Yes, after installed, the balance wheel has swung a little bit then stop. What is the reason? How to fix it?
Thank you
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