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On 5/31/2020 at 5:26 PM, JohnD said:

Keeping with this theme, how about this Ingersoll? Made in Wales I believe.....

 

 

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This has a CAL 400 movement as far as I see it. I love them and they start to love me too! :wub: CAL 400 I have more in my pile, but struggling to find the time to play with them, or if i have the time i spend it with sleeping.

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38 minutes ago, AndyHull said:

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Advert? What advert? You are going to get me in to trouble, I'm sure advertising is not allowed under the forum rules..
 

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When that advert was made Coca Cola still contained cocaine! (and at 5 Cents a very cheap fix!):blink:

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My Stormtrooper, 6139-7100, arrived yesterday. I had planned to take it all apart for a service. I first placed it on the timegrapher and it is actually running great. So I will leave it until I get the correct inner bezel. Not exactly sure what year this was made as the caseback is not original. I believe it was made in 1975. The seller was in Venezuela and it arrived shockingly fast. Overall a great watch in great shape.

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I wonder how it earned the nickname "Helmet" ?

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Ohhh... Now I see the resemblance!:D

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7 minutes ago, luiazazrambo said:

Andy lives close to the whiskey barrels, he needs no cocaine. Right Andy? Now i just said that and having a thought about the watches he bough on ebay I am a little bit less certain about it. :D Andy?

fixed price coca - cola

I am going to check if this poster is re-printed. Would be a great present to my Mrs.

No need to do that, click on the image in the link and you will find it is a very high definition (2331x3190 pixels) picture, with no water mark on it to spoil it. Down load and save it, then get your local print shop to colour print it for you in A3 or larger........:thumbsu:

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I fixed up a 1980 crown-less Timex Big 'Q' minute ticker two hander today. 

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This particular Timex mechanism has a single pusher instead of the crown. I actually have another similar watch, and a ladies (from a junk lot) with the same mechanism. I hadn't had much luck with them, they all stubbornly refused to tick, so today I decided to have another crack at them and see what I could get working.

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This one was missing the pusher, which I salvaged from the ladies movement, and a brass shim to allow the pusher to contact the module, which I fabricated from brass sheet. I also added a couple of capton tape insulation patches to simplify things, and avoid unwanted contact between the back of the shim and the dial (which was causing random ghost pushes of the pusher).

The mechanism was completely dead when I started, but a quick bath, and a little light oiling sorted that out. 

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The crystal will get those scratches removed once I am satisfied that the thing is now running correctly.

I'm going to try something similar with the other version of this that I have. Hopefully it can be revived too.

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On 6/23/2020 at 10:16 AM, luiazazrambo said:

This has a CAL 400 movement as far as I see it.

They are a lot easier to deal with than for example the BFG 866, which, while similar in construction uses a single plate, which invariably results in a wrestling match to get all of the wheels to sit nicely at the same time to allow you to screw the plate down.
Ingersoll used a number of different movements over the years. Some relatively simple pin levers like this, and others fully jewelled.

Look out for the Ingersoll Sealions. They were very popular and there are some nice examples around for not much money.
Even the most tatty examples I've collected  cleaned up nicely and there are some very attractive designs. .

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39 minutes ago, AndyHull said:

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A Soviet era USSR Poljot 2460 Sekonda is adorning my wrist today.

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Andy, as you seem to know about these, what can you tell me about this Sekonda?

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It is the last watch my father had. He's been dead now for nearly 28 years and I assume he bought it some time in the late 1980's? Sadly I can't get excited about it as a watch, just keep it for sentimental reasons....:(

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I don't recognise the exact mechanism but it looks familiar.

One of the best resources for finding out about Russian watches of this era is probably Sekondtime.

https://sekondtime.wordpress.com/ussr-quartz/

The plate construction suggests it is probably some Uglich variant, but what exactly, I don't know.

Sekonda bought from a number of Russian watch factories around that time. Later Sekondas sourced their mechanisms from elsewhere, including Japan and China.

Does the dial have USSR or CCCP or some other indication that it is definitely Russian,  printed on it anywhere? Sometimes this is not visible with the dial fitted, so you may need to remove it from the case to see.

Are there any numbers on the caliber?

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Buler Solar LCD Chronograph Alarm (3091-9003), circa 1978.

This was presumably meant to compete with the likes of the Seiko LCD Solar Alarm Chronograph A156 produced the same year.

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It has all the look and feel of a quality watch, entirely stainless in construction.

Very different from the 99 pence "Hong Kong specials" that you could pick up from a filling station a few years later.

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1972 Timex Marlin.

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This is a bit of an experiment. Having discovered that some (all?) of the ingredients of the secret sauce in Moebius Classical Oil "8000" are light mineral oil and neetsfoot oil, I decided to see what would happen if I brewed my own.

This watch was treated to a 80%/20% mix of scent free hypoallergenic baby oil and finest saddlers neetsfoot oil. The former can be bought by the half litre bottle and is intended for oiling delicate infants. The latter I picked up a litre of from ebay and is meant to be used on equestrian tack. In total I paid the equivalent of around $12 USD for the lot, which should make roughly 600ml of my open source watch tipple. For comparison 600ml of  genuine Moebius Classical Oil "8000" would set you back around $3540 (and last you approximately twenty life times).

I mixed up enough to fill a 50ml hand sanitizer bottle, as for some strange reason I seem to have rather a lot of them kicking around these days.

I chose an 80/20 mix for no other reason than it looked about the right colour.

The watch was serviced, and lubricated in the usual manner, and so far nothing has exploded, and I haven't had a visit from the Swatch finder general. As a side note, it also appears to be keeping good time (for a 1972 Timex), keeping perfect pace with the Timex Big Q on my other wrist (which has NOT been similarly adulterated), so the viscosity is in the right ball park.

Note: I am in no way advocating the use of random lubricants on precious time pieces, but this did seem like an experiment that was worth doing. I may make up a batch with a whiff of Chinese Molyslip knock off, as I have about 200ml of that sitting here crying out for a similar bit of probably unwise fun.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, the strap (which came from another basket case watch) is also fairly ancient. I used the neetsfoot oil neat on that, and it has brought it back from a hard, cardboardy and twisted mess, to a supple, clean, wearable and comfortable piece of leather. If nothing else, I do now have a plentiful supply of leather softener.

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Dried up lubricants? Ahahah!

NOS 6117 Navigator Timer, manuf. June '71...opened it up for a check.. the gasket looks better than a brand new one... took the picture as it came, at most 10 secs between positions. Insane 

I know what I'll wear when going overseas again..

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Earlier today I finished up one more of those 70's enigmas. Three down five more to go!
This is an ORION powered by an Baumgartner 582 digital. Must say with or without hands these beasts is starting to get to me..
 

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Finally got round to sporting my Soviet era “Polarski” Elektronika 1 today.

Wife hates pretty much all of my collection, but out with her friends last night - they are both into 60s and 70s retro furniture and design. They loved it! The husband especially got a kick out it being stamped in Cyrillic “made in CCCP”

Her female friend wants any ladies LED I can find for her - I just happen to have few kicking around :)

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