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I have finally got back to restoring a Landeron movement, a personal project I started a while back. I believe it is an early cal. 48 although it may be a 47? The balance was one of the many issues with the watch. With a broken pivot on the staff and the balance spring beyond fixing, without buying professional tools finding a complete balance would be the easiest way for me to fix the issue.
I am at a complete loss as to what balance I need; I know its a non-incabloc, possibly made by either Barbell or Renata but I'm not sure what I should be looking for, or where to find one. There are many variants and I'm not sure if any of the calibers of Landeron house the same balance that I might be able to utilise?
I've attached a picture of the movement before I disassembled if it's to any use? Any help is very much appreciated!
Hello everyone. I have a really sad story and I am a complete amateur. I am a machinist for a living so I thought I would give a crack at making a frankenwatch, however it did not go as planned and now I have a movement with subdials that don’t work and a whole lot of parts and money invested and I don’t know what to do. I need the help of a professional. The donor movement was a NOS, new old stock, and was running perfectly, however I messed up almost everything attempting to make this watch. I will happily ship all of the parts needed to complete this watch and pay for any repair that need to be made and for the return shipping. I need the help of a professional how can repair and assemble the watch with the parts and return it to me. I will pay for everything, the labor, replacement parts, return shipping, I just need someone’s help.
Details about the project:
movement: valjoux 7733
dial: vintage NOS angelus chronograph dial
case: custom machined case
A friend of my father gave me this old pocketwatch to see if I could repare it.
As you see in the picture, the balance wheel is extremely bent. I tried to bend it back, but i cant make it good enough.
Does anyone know where I can find a balancewheel for this Revue 30 movement? I have tried to search around online, however, I cant find any.
Is there a generic balance that would fit in here?
UG Tri-Compax Chronograph (centre) seconds hand can’t turn past 58.5 seconds and the whole watch stops tickingBy IOB
I have a UG Tri-Compax from the 1950s or 60s (Calibre 281): The chronograph (centre) seconds hand can’t turn past 58.5 seconds and the whole watch stops ticking/working (nothing moving/turning in the movement). However, when the reset pusher (4 o’clock) is kept pressed, it enables the seconds hand and watch to move/tick again. The reset pusher is released when the chrono seconds hand reaches 60: the watch resumes ticking and the hands move until the chrono seconds hand reaches 58.5s again. The process is repeated.
It has been noticed that if the watch is held face down then the reset pusher “procedure” doesn’t always work (i.e. the watch does not resume ticking/moving). It’s usually necessary to turn the watch over and try to press the pusher a few times in order to make the seconds hands move again.
The 30-minute sub-dial at 3 o’clock has stopped working, too.
If the chrono is not activated, then the watch seems to run properly.
What do you think is the problem?
Thanks for your insight!
I wanted to share my restoration stories that I have done for a long time and thrown into my archive. First I discussed the Atomic Mars 71 Brand using Valjoux 7734.
As it was seen, scratch and dial is broken. To begin with, I tried to brush the Case as Brushed and make it the first day. If it is decorated, I polished and re-painted the indexes (with acrylic paint). I usually do this in three layers so that the paint is not deleted in a short time.
I replaced the case buttons and tubes with aftermarket buttons.
Since the condition of the dial was in very poor condition, I had it re-painted. The quality is not so good. In Turkey, unfortunately, not doing the job well.
Caliber 7734 (Valjoux) is a special and robust mechanism for me. With good maintenance and lubrication, you can reduce deflection values up to 3-4 seconds per day. I added a short timelapse video about it :)
As a result, such a result came before us.
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I'm attaching an image from the book. You can Google title you can find that it's on Amazon and it seems to come in a variety of versions? It looks like the link below the hard cover is what you definitely want at that bargain price. Even the paperback seems pricey but it does have a really nice section on fixing up hairsprings The book I have is 260 pages so the link is correct sort of. If you go down the page notices a reference to another book same title same author reproduction of the 1954 edition. Notice it's much cheaper and it has way more pages? The last time I remember somebody trying to purchase this book whatever edition they ended up with was missing they hairspring section? Which is always troubling if you recommend a book and it comes in too many versions which makes for confusion. https://www.amazon.com/Bench-Practices-Watch-Clockmakers-Henry/dp/096562191X
Evening I thought I'd share my modest attic fresh finds less the nasty wrist bands. I bought them mainly for the Sekonda. Both not working, the Sekonda's balance was wrapped round it's rotor. But the Timex really surprised me as it started to work as I adjusted the time. Stopped a bit, and after a bit of shaking and a gentle warming on a radiator I've got it to go. Though it does , run a little slow. The self winding side of it seems to work, however when I go to wind it manually it the crown winds back when you let go. I guess this might be something to do with the click not engaging.
I finally got it working as it "should" and back together. It ended up being two different things both me installing tiny pieces incorrectly and just a little out of sync. The first issue was the escape wheel/pallet fork that was misaligned and not installed properly which allowed the minute hand, hour hand, main spring barrel and 3 train wheels less the escape wheel to turn when trying to wind the watch and also when the stem was at position 3 for setting the time. Thanks to Poljot for pointing me in the direction of the pallet fork/escape wheel interaction. Once that was corrected, the watch would wind and run but when the stem was in position 3 for setting the time, the cannon pinion on the minute arbor would not turn. After hours of videos, screen shots and guidance by Nickelsilver (Thank you!) this morning I was able to understand how the mechanism was supposed to work which led me to finding that the little sprocket that connects the minute wheel to the auto date change wheel was just a little off center causing the wheels to bind up. Next step is ordering a replacement second hand since the second hand I have has the tip of the second wheel broken off inside it. In addition, I am interested in how well the watch runs and keeps time. Before replacing the dial and second wheel the watch ran -2 sec/day. Probably isn't going to run that good after the work that was just performed so it will def need a service. Thanks again to everyone who contributed and gave me the confidence to continue on. Here are some final wrap up pics.
I really don't like the term spinning freely as that would indicate a problem. The canon pinion has to have friction on whatever it's attached to. Then pay attention to the posting above By spectre6000. The problem is probably not the Canon pinyin itself it's somewhere in between. Removing or disassembling a watch under power as you found out is not good. All that energy released and went where? The problem with this section of the watch is in order to get here basically the entire watch has to be disassembled. you took your watch to these people to have them butcher the watch did you complain about it afterwards? Most people who pay usually a lot of money to get the Rolex serviced expected to be perfect not destroyed seems more like this would be a warranty issue except of course they're incompetent which would be a problem. Do these people advertise that they service Rolex watches? I'm going to disagree? Often times in watch repair you need a dramatic lesson to grasp that watch repair isn't really this easy. It takes a lot of time and practice learning to successfully to service a watch. For some people they need to start with a Rolex and destroy it to grasp that. Others need to start with a prized family watch and destroy it. Having the entire family criticize you every time you meet them might actually sink in perhaps. Really nice when I can quote other people that have my thoughts. Now we come to the it should be the end but? Where do you want to go with this? Normally people on this group learning watch repair one a learn all of watch repair of unlike just how you can fix my Rolex quickly when this Rolex was butchered before and need to complete servicing. So even if we can help you find the problem and you fix it this watch still need to complete servicing. That's because it's now very dirty from you taken apart and putting it back together and the lubrication has been hopelessly destroyed by taking it apart and putting it back together. Plus whoever serviced it before was incompetent so that alone means the watch needs to be serviced again. Then the cost of sending a Rolex anywhere to get it serviced is expensive because it's expensive watch the components are expensive. But if it's had prior to DIY servicing the cost will go up considerably. Then where do we want to go if you want to continue to fix your watch? He can't really service the watch and you find a problem anyway. There's really no good way to do this and yes we really need the pictures of your watch.someone else's watch because their watches running yours is not. We can't trust your eyes and diagnostic skills as you're a newbie. But in the absence of anything up like to do why did she put the balance wheel and pallet fork back in. Mina to verify that the watch runs and more than a few minutes would be ideal. Make sure the winding works don't worry about the setting. I suspect the problem is on the dial side but it's anything and everything is possible with this watch