Seiko Dial

[chadders1966]

Hi

 

There seems to be a few people on here know something about Seikos, so hopefully someone can help :). I have this nice little Seiko 5 (case ref 7009-6000A) that looks to me like someone has cleaned the dial with acetone or similar. All the painted on writing and lines have gone, including the reference number I think is usually on the bottom of Seiko dials.

How would I go about finding a replacement if I don't know the reference? Will any dial from a similar watch fit, or does it have to be specific? I think I would have needed a new dial anyway as there are no feet on this one, although I am not quite sure how it fits given the full size day/date rings. I wonder if the dial is supposed to fit to the movement holder? Anyway, any information welcome - thanks!

 

Stephen

 

[Blacklab]

Seiko from this period tend to have similar if not the same No. as the model number on the dial, it would probably be something like 7009-60xx followed by 2 or 3 letters. The 7000 series movements normally have a plastic movement spacer, the dial feet push fit into this & are not screwed in. Not too sure but I would suspect that a dial from a 7006, 7019 or possibly a 7S26 would fit. Try fleabay or speedtimerkollektion.com.

[ro63rto]

Dont think your caseback and dial match.

The 7009-6000 series is a dress watch.

Use this to see if you can identify the actual model number.

http://www.watchsleuth.com/seiko5finder/

Edited March 16, 2016 by ro63rto

[ro63rto]

That faint chequered design around the outside rim of the dial looks like the outer bezel design of a "Rally" model.

[rogart63]

Dont think your caseback and dial match.

The 7009-6000 series is a dress watch.

Use this to see if you can identify the actual model number.

http://www.watchsleuth.com/seiko5finder/

Great site? Bookmarked.Thanks 

[chadders1966]

Thanks guys. The watch came to me in pieces so I'm not sure what goes with what. The movement does seem to be a good fit for the case, which as I said is referenced 7009 600A1. The only marking on the movement is 7009A. I've just noticed the day ring is additionally marked 870044Y, don't know if that is relevant.

I've had a closer look and it does have holes around the edge of the plate for dial feet, didn't notice that earlier. I'd reuse the dial I have if it had feet, and if I could do anything about the peculiar finish it has on it now. So now I need a dial with the feet in the right places as well.

Stephen

[jdm]

Check this lot from Ramon

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4pc-Vintage-SEIKO-Automatic-6309-7009-6119C-Gents-Parts-Watch-AsIs-/201532545123

One of them has a nice dial and hands in good conditions.

I think buying from him is almost a mandatory step for any Seiko tinkerer in the world.

[chadders1966]

Oops, should have checked first! 870044Y is the part number for the day disc.

That white one does look rather interesting doesn't it? I've looked at his stuff before but it usually looks too far gone.

Stephen

[jdm]

Altough, the white dial has a chapter ring, may be marked and not usable without it.

[Peixian]

Dont think your caseback and dial match.

The 7009-6000 series is a dress watch.

Use this to see if you can identify the actual model number.

http://www.watchsleuth.com/seiko5finder/

:thumbsu:

[petevig]

Here is the model number that the dial came from. 

http://www.watchsleuth.com/seiko5finder/search/?MOD=SNK631

My guess is that someone tried to use the dial and botched it.  

The SNK is a 3:45 crown, and the 7009 is likely a 3:00 crown, which means the feet won't fit unless you have the right holder.

I think you will need to use the Seiko Finder to look for something similar for a 7009 where you can find a donor watch/dial, or go to Dagaz or any number of other suppliers and find a suitable replacement. 

 

Good Luck

[chadders1966]

Thanks a lot for that, much appreciated. I have attached some more photos. You can't see from the first one but the case does have an offset for the crown - I would have just said at 4, glad to have your more precise information ;).

 

 

Sorry for the blurring on the next one, I was just wanting to show the  sockets on the plate for the dial feet. They do seem to correspond to the brighter markings on the back of the dial where I assume the dial feet used to be. As you can see there is evidence of glue, so perhaps as you say they weren't quite in the right place and someone tried to glue it on to the holder.

 

 

 

This last photo shows the two holders/spacers with it - not sure which fits where. Not sure any of this matters really as the dial I have is the wrong one and unusable, so I'll need to find a dial that fits the movement anyway.

 

[petevig]

Stephan,

Here is a great resource for/when working on Seiko's.  (BTW, 3:45 seems to be what Seiko aficionados use, while Seiko uses 4:00...go figure).  Here is the link, just scroll down till you find 7009A and download the file (PDF format).

 

http://www.thewatchsite.com/14-user-manual-technical-manual-casing-guide-downloads/15-seiko-calibers-technical-repair-manuals.html

[ramrod]

almost all seiko dials are 28.5 mm. which means you can use almost any seiko dial that you like. i believe the only dials that you cannot use is the manual winder dials. quartz dials can be used if you want to modify them around the date window. not all dials will match up with the locations of the dial feet, tho.

here's your chance to really mod this watch if you want to. you just need to get some dial feet and dial dots.

you can even use a dial with date only - or no date at all.

its a shame about that original dial. that looked cool with the rally stripes.