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What you have there are three differing sized holders that you wind the spring into, the button on the back then presses the wound spring into the barrel, there should be an accompanying winder handle which can be vice mounted with an arbor attachment.

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I've given up on the idea of a comprehensive, affordable set of mainspring winders. A new spring is cheap and goes in so easily! By no means am I  an expert with hairsprings, but repairing them i

You wouldn't. It's about barrel sizes. The ETA set is sized (and I'm sure labeled) according to common ETA movements. Generic sets are sized by unit measurements (mm). If you do a lot of ETA stuff, it

Just found in a chronograph barrel. Apparenly put in by hand, too ? Frank  

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On 10/29/2016 at 3:25 PM, clockboy said:

I have a very similar winding set as this. These winders are great once you get used to using them. The issue to be aware of is unlike the Bergeon mainspring winder (which has a winding handle) it's a bit more tricky when winding & keeping the winding arbour flush with the rest of the unit. Also the same issue as the Bergeon the removing of the arbour after winding is the most critical part. Absolutely make sure it has released & withdraw the winding arbour slowly making sure the centre of the spring does not travel out with the arbour. If it does (which is common) Use a fine pair of tweezers to push the centre of the spring back as you go. I suggest you practice first with an old scrap spring/arbour. 

Hello, I'm considering getting this set, do you know what barrel sizes these will fit, in millimeters? Thank you.

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I've been watching out for a decent set of mainspring winders for a while now, and just spotted these on Ebay.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Metall-Vintage-Watch-Federwinde-Set-fur-ETA-Uhrwerk-C07-8500-1-8500-2-3135/184046407944

There are a number of sellers, mostly in Hong Kong but a couple are in the UK. This set is new to me and looks well made. The price seems reasonable, when compared to a used set costing upwards of 50 Euro. Has anyone bought a set? I don't recognise most of the calibre numbers, but the barrels look to be in a range of diameters. Are there any other variables? What is puzzling me for example is why there are two different winders for 2824 and 2892 when the spring dimensions are so similar?

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To start with it is described as vintage (vintage today doesn't mean what it used to be) I have seen clocks made about 10 years ago called vintage. This is a set for E T A movements, it doesn't mean that you should only use them for there movements,but on there movements they will work better and be a better fit. 

For what its worth I couldn't get along with watch mainspring winders, so always wound them in by hand. 

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winding main springs for a clock or vintage watch  BY HAND  is an interesting subject.   if you know how to do it;  learn that before buying a high priced,  used spring winder.      vin

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I have looked at this winder set before and it looks good value. Personally I have struggled fitting a watch mainspring by hand so use a winder. As oldhippy states they will work with other caliber watches as well. 

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@oldhippy do you recognise all those ETA movement i.d.s? What sizes are they, please?

2000?

2671 = 6.5 dia.

2235?

8200?

8500-1?

8500-2?

3135/2824=11.0

C07111?

7750=12.5

2892/2836=10.5 or 11.0

 

@vinn3I know how to do it, but especially with the small ones I'm concerned about deforming them. I can't do it with finger cots, they keep getting trapped in  the coils, so I end up contaminating the springs with scrapings from my fingernails. Best avoided.

Putting a new spring in is for me the most reliable and economical solution, given it's a hobby and I might service around 10 watches in a year. So I would continue to do that if saving money was the object. But if I wanted to splash out?

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25 minutes ago, Klassiker said:

@oldhippy do you recognise all those ETA movement i.d.s? What sizes are they, please?

2000?

2671 = 6.5 dia.

2235?

8200?

8500-1?

8500-2?

3135/2824=11.0

C07111?

7750=12.5

2892/2836=10.5 or 11.0

 

@vinn3I know how to do it, but especially with the small ones I'm concerned about deforming them. I can't do it with finger cots, they keep getting trapped in  the coils, so I end up contaminating the springs with scrapings from my fingernails. Best avoided.

Putting a new spring in is for me the most reliable and economical solution, given it's a hobby and I might service around 10 watches in a year. So I would continue to do that if saving money was the object. But if I wanted to splash out?

Think 2235 is a Rolex movement . Don't no why they aren't doing a set of winders. Instead of doing this. Looks okay though. 

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9 hours ago, Gasman said:

I bought this set and used for two eta calibres and they worked fine.

Quality is good though I had to degrease them as they came swimming in oil!

Hi Gasman, thanks for the reply. Just what I was hoping for.

Can you add to or correct any information in the list below? Ideally, would you be kind enough to list the actual spring diameters / heights which fit in each winder?

2000?

2671 = 6.5 dia.

2235 = Rolex according to Rogart63, but Ranfft doesn't list details. 

8200 = Miyota according to Redwood, but Ranfft doesn't give a mainspring dia. It's apparently a sealed barrel.

8500-1?

8500-2?

3135/2824=11.0

C07111?

7750=12.5

2892/2836=10.5 or 11.0

Do you see any reason why they would only work with the listed calibres?

What is the difference between the 3135/2824 winder and the 2892/2836 one?

Are these exclusively right-hand winders?

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I am very interested in the diameters as well. 
The mainspring winder I have is an antique set which belongs in a museum in stead of being used. And does not function very well. 
 

I also found this set on Ebay. And I even saw it on Aliexpress for around €78 incl shipping.

https://a.aliexpress.com/lkEw5Nax1

But nowhere I can find which exact measurements the barrels have. 
 

 

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To start with it is described as vintage (vintage today doesn't mean what it used to be) I have seen clocks made about 10 years ago called vintage. This is a set for E T A movements, it doesn't mean that you should only use them for there movements,but on there movements they will work better and be a better fit. 
For what its worth I couldn't get along with watch mainspring winders, so always wound them in by hand. 

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I've got most of the above winders. Including some that claim that they have adjustable barrel size. But watches in those days must have really different from what I have been working on. It usually doesn't fit properly or is the wrong size arbor.

I wished someone would make 1 that was truly universal. 1 that can do both right and left hand wound. Have different size barrels and arbors that you could select and assemble together to fit the watch that you are working on.

The Bergeon ones are nice but really expensive. I've seen China made copies recently. But I don't know if they really work.

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Hi

The most common sizes of barrel drum sizes (outer diameter) at my workstation are between 9.8-10.8 mm. 

Would a winder no. 7 (10.8 mm) cover the most then?

Besides, I might order one size lower and higher as well.

 

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Made an offer that was accepted on this mainspring winder set.  I have been researching and asking questions so hopefully I got a decent set? 
 

There are so many options and many are quite expensive- I didn’t want to lay out hundreds of dollars only to get the wrong sizes...If I made an error it is not a costly one :)

 

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I have a very similar set, and they can work well if everything goes right.  I would highly recommend practicing on some expendable mainsprings before you attempt an expensive or hard to replace mainspring.  I mangled quite a few getting the hang of it.  

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I have a similar set. Be careful, on the set I have some of the notches that grab the mainspring are worn and tend to let go if not careful. I do have several mainspring winders but my favourite is a "Mastercraft Winder". which is 100% reliable. see pics.

 

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Reviving a bit of an old thread that I found during search - I've been looking at the Chinese set as well, but I have a question for the "hand-winders" on the thread - how do you deal with automatic mainsprings? When I do hand wind, it's from the outside in (the reverse of how the spring comes out of the barrel) and the split ends / extra pieces of automatic ends are especially tricky. I feel like there's no good hand-winding technique for these springs and winders are the only option.

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All of the watch mainsprings I'm aware of can potentially be hand wound into the barrel, some are just more tricky than others - some shapes or types of mainspring can be awkward regardless of method. Having a pre-wound mainspring is nice when everything is going to plan.

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Good Morning to you all I hope you are all keeping safe and well,I wonder if anyone can help me with a small problem I have.I have a set of old watch mainspring winders which I use and they have become rather worn on the mainspring hooks on the winding arbors.Does anyone have any ideas on how to replace the hooks on the arbors?? Any help would be gratefully received,I enclose photos of the winders,Regards,Seth.

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