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All was going great when I diagnosed that the canon pinion was in need of tightening.  I dismantled very carefully and thought I would give it a service.  Whilst rebuilding, again very methodically and carefully, the darned pinion on the 4th wheel just flipped!  To try and console myself I imagined this was due to the age and wear/tear, still mightily frustrating.  It still works well and keeps good time but alas no seconds hand fitted.  It's an ABERCROMBIE AND FITCH (ALSTATER) fitted with a Schild 1568 movement.  Can anyone tell me where I can get a replacement 4th wheel, pretty please?  Agreat forum with some very educated contributors nice to join and read you all.  Thanks!

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Well, got a nice reply from Steve and he can't help either.  He even x referenced it for me and could'nt find ant lit for it.  Thank you very much for your diligence.

 

Jim.

Ok will keep em peeled one will turn up eventually.

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Clockboy! I got one from Germany arrived today, 2 minutes later boomboom!  up and working great.  Thank you for your time and effort, very comforting in my hour of despair.

Nice Jim, worth the wait I am sure. All part of the vintage watch repair enjoyment !!!!!!!

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