Crown Needed For Illinois Pocket Watch Size 12

[Edmund]

Dear friends,

 

This small centenary pocket watch of my collection came to me without a crown as you can see. 

 

 

This is a pity, since the mainspring and balance test as working and everything else seems to be in good condition.

 

 

The stem sits correctly inside the sleeve and can be adjusted to two positions (winding/time setting).

 

 

I have taken some measurements in case any one has a spare crown of the correct size:

 

Crown (base): 4.6 mm.

Sleeve (outer diameter): 3.36 mm.

Stem (length): 9.44 mm.

Thread (length): 1.72 mm.

Thread (width): 1.14 mm.

Square end: 0.99 mm.

 

This grandpa-watch really misses its old ticking days! 

 

Please have a look in your spares. Thank you in advance!

[clockboy]

This will be very difficult to find, the only way forward will be to make one which will require access to a lathe.

[Edmund]

I am still stuck with this one, sorry. Any more advice/help anyone, please?

 

For your reference, the case was manufactured by the Elgin Giant Watch Case Co.

Edited March 6, 2016 by Edmund

[Alaskamick]

I have a feeling that the stem may have been broken off with the crown.

 

When you fetched the movement out was the stem already in the hand setting position.

 

This is where it has to be to get the movement out of the case.

 

In that position there should be quite a long amount of  stem showing.

 

I think you will need to locate a stem and a crown so you have to identify the correct crown as well. 

 

Can you list the serial no. off the movement please. Not visible at the moment it needs to be a larger magnification or just give the no.

Edited March 6, 2016 by Alaskamick

[Alaskamick]

I think this is what you are going to need.

 

 

 

 

 

[Edmund]

Hey Alaskamick, welcome to this thread!

 

I have a feeling that the stem may have been broken off with the crown.

 

Oh, it could be, but I just checked again and I can guarantee the stem looks complete (unless someone has cut it very neatly).

 

Can you list the serial no. off the movement please. Not visible at the moment it needs to be a larger magnification or just give the no.

 

2425111

 

I think this is what you are going to need.

 

 

$_35.JPG

 

Yes, that is exactly the crown! You can see it here too:

 

 

In this case the bow also matches my model. So where can I get this crown?

[Alaskamick]

That's the hard part. It's now a matter of searching.

 

 I don't know anywhere that sells this type of thing as a matter of course. You will have to search and ask if anyone has what you want.

 

Also look on eBay for a doner case. Won't be cheap I'm afraid.

 

This is your watch I think

 

Grade: 228

• Manufacturer:Illinois
• Manufacturer Location:Springfield, Illinois
• Movement Serial Number:2425111
• Grade:228
• Model:2
• Estimated Production Year:1912
• Run Quantity:200
• Total Production:34,520
• Size:12s
• Jewels:15j
• Movement Configuration:Hunting
   
• Movement Finish:Nickel
• Movement Setting:Pendant
• Plate:3/4 Plate
• Barrel:Going
• Adjusted:No
• Railroad Grade:No
• Dial Feet Locations:20.5, 39.0, 55.0
• Case Screw Locations:17.5, 50.5

Edited March 6, 2016 by Alaskamick

[Edmund]

Alright, so here is my conclusion. At the moment I feel it will be is easier to buy a replacement case with a crown than a replacement crown on its own. So I am marking this case as 'solved'. Thanks to those who contributed their thoughts.

[Rafal]

you could try to browse something like that:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-antique-12-size-Pendant-set-pocket-watch-stems-X22548-492-64-Assortment-/262506031969?hash=item3d1e942b61:g:nXwAAOSwjXRXYX4r

But first I would advise to find part number for your stem.