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Snagged a job lot of tools, and more than a few mysteries. First is a tin of what looks like chopped up cork, and the second is a jar of white powder. Any ideas?

Is it old shellac?

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OK no idea what this is, it doesn't react to UV, and is very fine powder

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The below is for shellac application but what specifically?PXL_20231129_131948557.thumb.jpg.f7cc2b6b76cdd8e6ff80ba675da01892.jpg

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lots more to follow!

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White powder I don’t know- radium lume?

The first bit of kit looks like the chips and wand for bluing screws and hands and such. what hold and control the heat perhaps…wand for holding over the flame

How about borax flux for the powder?

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My guesses..

1. wood chips for drying parts in after the final rinse. A bit of an archaic practice these days.

2. could be French chalk for brushing cleaned clock plates with....  or maybe diamantine powder for polishing.... could also be oilstone powder, also for polishing, although the stuff that I have got is slightly greyish.

3. Blueing pan. Fill it with brass chips, place item to be blued on the chips and hold the pan over a spirit burner.

4. & 5. Pallet warmer for softening the shellac in order to adjust the pallet stones.

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1 hour ago, Waggy said:

Snagged a job lot of tools, and more than a few mysteries. First is a tin of what looks like chopped up cork, and the second is a jar of white powder. Any ideas?

Is it old shellac?

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OK no idea what this is, it doesn't react to UV, and is very fine powder

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The below is for shellac application but what specifically?PXL_20231129_131948557.thumb.jpg.f7cc2b6b76cdd8e6ff80ba675da01892.jpg

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lots more to follow!

Just be careful with that white powder, no laying it out in straight lines. Diamantine powder ? Talc for brass ? Dab a bit on some sensitive bits after you've had a shower.

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6 hours ago, Waggy said:

Snagged a job lot of tools, and more than a few mysteries. First is a tin of what looks like chopped up cork, and the second is a jar of white powder. Any ideas?

Is it old shellac?

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PXL_20231129_131657416.thumb.jpg.d1f40abd5047acb4d67c6f3d4661d168.jpg

OK no idea what this is, it doesn't react to UV, and is very fine powder

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The below is for shellac application but what specifically?PXL_20231129_131948557.thumb.jpg.f7cc2b6b76cdd8e6ff80ba675da01892.jpg

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lots more to follow!

Add a drop of oil to a small amount of the powder, mix to a paste, see if it will polish the handle of a pair of tweezers. 

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13 hours ago, RichardHarris123 said:

The white powder is cocaine, for when a repair is stressing you out.  Hehe.  As for the rest, no idea

It's something you mix into your lubrication it helps to lubricate things much better. Just let me know how shiny the pivots look after a few years

9 hours ago, oldhippy said:

White power I would say diamantine powder

A classic polishing compound usually came in several grit sizes if you would call it that they all look like white powder. Typically would be mixed with some oil used to polish your pivots. Not used anymore other than a novelty in your bench.

13 hours ago, Marc said:

1. wood chips for drying parts in after the final rinse. A bit of an archaic practice these days.

Even in my day the only time people are using wood chips were well in school at least one of the schools the rumor was if you didn't do things right it would go into the sawdust box. Then you get to start over again.  That would also explain why there are holes in the lid of the can to allow the vapors of the solvent-based products to eventually escape. 

 

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2 hours ago, Waggy said:

Can anyone explain or point me in the right direction to understand how to use the below, thanks.

They also come in slightly different shapes like this one resembles the one that I use

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Unfortunately I don't have a good picture of it in use so you'll have to use your imagination and hopefully word this correctly. First you turn your pallet fork upside down like in this image

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Now is where you have to use your imagination. Slide the black locking ring back to release the part that holds the pallet fork in place. Grab the pallet fork in the image above movement up and drop it onto the tool. You want the pallet stones facing outward. Then when you slide the ring forward you'll see the slot on the locking part will come down onto the pallet fork arbor holding the pallet fork in place. Now you can take the alcohol amp preferred and heat up the pallet fork on each side so you can play with your shellac.

 

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@JohnR725 got it thanks.

16 hours ago, rehajm said:

White powder I don’t know- radium lume?

I thought about this, but doesn't react to my UV light and isn't radioactive (I have a radiation monitor) - I think the consensus is that it's some kind of polishing compound, which makes sense.

 

I'll post more crazy tools from the job lot tonight 🙂

 

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3 hours ago, Waggy said:

isn't radioactive (I have a radiation monitor)

You probably don't really want the radiation detector. Ill just cause undue stress especially if you start acquiring a vintage stuff. Somewhere but it's hiding in the attic I believe in a metal box I have an actual kit for reapplying your radium luminescence material. But then I also have some of the wax stuff that they used to sell.  used to have is really little tiny tins that had wax with the luminescence material dissolved in seed heated up and put it underneath the hand in to fill in the hand and that's what the Steelers. I was never really impressed with it. But I discovered with my Geiger counter that some of the ones I have actually have radium in their which has really surprised about because but the radium was supposed to be phased out by? On the other hand I have a whole bunch of cards that have radium hands even without the Geiger counter you can tell because if you push the hand decide you can see the burnt paper from the radium. So do I get really excited to get some military hands are dials then you monitor gets very excited

Here's what the powder we think it is it's available from cousins

https://www.cousinsuk.com/product/diamantine-bergeon

 

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8 hours ago, Waggy said:

Can anyone explain or point me in the right direction to understand how to use the below, thanks.

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Pallet stone adjuster. Lever fits into the slot of the 2 brass wings, then a pusher to move them in and out i guess while you hold the lever ? It looks like for big pocket watch levers ? I think i would want to do the stones one at a time. The other is a handle, it attaches to a box as it is here, it enables the user to pick up the box and carry it around with the use of just one of his hands. 🤣 sorry i couldnt resist, it was just begging for it .

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Next instalment of strange stuff:

This thing has a spring loaded collar and the which moves the 4 'teeth' back when you pull it back

From the side:

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Front on:

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There were also three of these things floating around:

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Not sure what these are, they seem to be made of brass or similar

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This seems to be steel:

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This one is also steel, and has square ends (side view):

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End on:

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This is pointed at the bottom, maybe some kind of punch?

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This one is like a very large oiler, and filed to an angle at the end:

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Close up of the end

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I think this is a tool for adjusting wheels back into true?

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I thought this may be a screwdriver sharpener, but the angles are all wrong

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Also in the box was the following:

A 4 sided movement holder (currently refurbishing)

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Very old canon pinion tool - in 2 minds if I should polish it up or leave it all retro?

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Pretty sure this is a dial foot dressing tool, again I am in 2 minds if I should polish it up or leave it all retro?:

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And there were 2 of these, I think the silver one is for truing balance wheels, but not 100% sure about the brass one

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8 minutes ago, Waggy said:

Also in the box was the following:

A 4 sided movement holder (currently refurbishing)

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Very old canon pinion tool - in 2 minds if I should polish it up or leave it all retro?

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Pretty sure this is a dial foot dressing tool, again I am in 2 minds if I should polish it up or leave it all retro?:

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And there were 2 of these, I think the silver one is for truing balance wheels, but not 100% sure about the brass one

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Truing and poising calipers, looks like the brass ones have the nibs missing.

10 minutes ago, Waggy said:

Also in the box was the following:

A 4 sided movement holder (currently refurbishing)

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Very old canon pinion tool - in 2 minds if I should polish it up or leave it all retro?

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Pretty sure this is a dial foot dressing tool, again I am in 2 minds if I should polish it up or leave it all retro?:

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And there were 2 of these, I think the silver one is for truing balance wheels, but not 100% sure about the brass one

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Why do you think its for trimming dial feet and not just a pin vice ?

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23 minutes ago, Waggy said:

Could be, will try and get a better picture, maybe wishful thinking?

I'd have thought the bottom of jaws would have a cutting edge to remove excess solder. Bergeon do make a tool for that, make a comparison, our @JohnR725 here suggests using a pin vice for the same proceedure, i seem to remember that is what he uses.  Haha you notice i hang on every word that John delivers, dont panic J I'm not a stalker 🤣

3 hours ago, Waggy said:

Next instalment of strange stuff:

This thing has a spring loaded collar and the which moves the 4 'teeth' back when you pull it back

From the side:

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Front on:

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There were also three of these things floating around:

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Not sure what these are, they seem to be made of brass or similar

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This seems to be steel:

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This one is also steel, and has square ends (side view):

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End on:

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This is pointed at the bottom, maybe some kind of punch?

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This one is like a very large oiler, and filed to an angle at the end:

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Close up of the end

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I think this is a tool for adjusting wheels back into true?

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I thought this may be a screwdriver sharpener, but the angles are all wrong

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The first pictures are adjustable mainspring winders, i have a few and quite like them. Other photos look like hand gravers for lathewoork, a graver sharpener and above that a tool used in conjunction with the truing calipers for straightening the balance wheel, the slot fits onto the rim for bending, i dont think i would use that it looks like more of a  deforming tool.

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8 hours ago, Waggy said:

And there were 2 of these, I think the silver one is for truing balance wheels, but not 100% sure about the brass one

All of them are considered truing calipers. Although sometimes the used for truly wheels not just the balance wheels. Just different styles of the same tool

Too many items I will just snipped out images so we can keep straight what I'm talking about or at least I can figure out where and talking about. This one is a mainspring a Winder you're missing the arbor part. I think I have some someplace I've never used them. Then if I remember right I think the arbor is double-sided you really get curious off to find a picture for you to show you the rest of it

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Typically these will come in a set of three. There bench keys for winding typically American pocket watches but conceivably European pocket watches that require winding out of the case. In other words in a typical American pocket watch the case has a sleeve which holds in the stamina crown when the movements removed from the case you need a way of winding and setting.

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I normally not used to seeing these exactly like these but my suspicion is these are used to push jewel settings out of watches. A lot of times when you see him like this is because somebody in a classroom situation made them versus purchasing them commercially. At least sometimes.

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8 hours ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

I'd have thought the bottom of jaws would have a cutting edge to remove excess solder. Bergeon do make a tool for that, make a comparison, our @JohnR725 here suggests using a pin vice for the same proceedure, i seem to remember that is what he uses.  Haha you notice i hang on every word that John delivers, dont panic J I'm not a stalker 🤣

Now I have to watch my back somebody stalking me oh dear. I do use a specific pin device for that sort of thing because I always regarded initially as a bad pin vice because the jaws were sharp. But I found the sharp jaws quite nice at reducing the diameter of things were for cleaning up things.

So yes they do make a specific tool for that purpose but I suspect in the picture of we looked at the jaws carefully it's probably just the pin vice.

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A little bit of elbow grease and here are some of the tools cleaned up

Canon pinion tool before:

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And here it is after

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Used some of Will Kirk's (Repair Shop) cleaning solution to clean the dirt and old varnish off the handle, then made some shellac to protect it, finally some of my home made beeswax polish. Cleaned the parts up in dish detergent, then IPA to remove any water, naphtha to remove any grease and a quick visit to the buffing machine and some Brasso, another full clean and then oil/grease and reassemble.

This is the pin vice before:

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And here it is now:

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Similar treatment to the pinion tool above

And here is the  brass truing and poising caliper before

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And after

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Didn't to too crazy with this, just some Brasso and some 3-in-1 oil on the hinge

I also worked on the 4 sided movement holder:

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After I cleaned it up I found some blue paint, so thought what the heck:

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    • I've had a quick bite to eat and would like to crack on with this if thats ok, i know its not watchstuff but its important, if even just one of you can avoid this happening to either yourself or a family member then it's 100 % worth my time and getting it out of my system really helps me as well and hopefully spurs some of you to make sure you and your family are ok. And please anyone that can add some input from knowledge or experience then just jump on. The stroke mum had is known as an Ischemic stroke of which there are more than one kind , mum's was an embolic stroke , these are caused by blood clots  ( wandering clots or embolisms ) another type is a thrombotic clot that can block main arteries that may supply blood flow to the brain . From what i gather thrombotic clots are stationary,  these are the type that cause pain and restrict blood flow in the particular area where they form ie. leg , chest. Mum's embolism travelled to her brain , so she had no experience of pain and no warning until it was too late. Many things play a part of clot formation, we can't change our genetics but we can edge our bets by leading a healthy lifestyle. My mum is 87  5' 1"  and weighs around 55 kg, has always been extremely fit, goes out nearly every day into her village or the next town sometimes a town 40 miles away on the bus if she's buying presents. She eats healthy as far as mainstream guidance tells folk, fish chicken no red meat, fruit veg nuts etc, all the usual stuff thats considered healthy and no real crap like pastries sweets . Has never smoked and has never really drunk alcohol, but she is a stress head and worries about everybody and things she really does not need to. This is me to a tee, i worry about everyone and rarely myself.  Being in hospital we've discovered she has an irregular heartbeat ( caused by the stroke ? the doctors seem to think not ) . Atrial Fibrillation, doctors have attributed the stroke cause to her irregular heartbeat, apparently clots can form in the upper chambers of the heart were irregularity occurs, brake up and become mobile to cause damage. Those are just one type of stroke, hemorrhagic stroke (less common than an ischemic stroke )  caused by a bleed in the brain generally thought of as more serious as not only is the brain being starved the bleed itself can exert pressure on the brain. Its important to know the difference which cannot be ascertained until a scan is carried out, and the treatment is different. Common thinking was to give someone experiencing a heartattack an aspirin to improve blood flow, this can actually worsen the effects of a bleed on the brain. There are lots of causes for a stroke, genetics for sure like i said, but getting the most from your genetics and nursing the weak areas by living healthily will not only extend our time but give us more quality time that we have left ( change just one thing if thats all you can manage for now ). Regular visits to see the quack will pick up warning signs early , just one visit for an mot might save not only your life but wont destroy the lives of your loved ones. Anyone here in their 50s not had an mot medical check up yet ?   Er cough er 🤔 maybe its time to make sure everything is working as it should, and not just your heart ( dont clench when the doc stretches on those latex gloves, and definitely dont have a smile on your face when you stand up straight again 🙂 ) . A stroke can strike anyone of any age and of any lifestyle if there is something underlying going unnoticed, make that call and find out how you really are with your health. Love you people x
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    • Hello forum, i have some things i would like to say today if thats ok. Being here is something of a sanctuary for me, talking about something that i love doing with folk that i have become fond of ( yes quite surprisingly under all that craziness and verbal brawn lays a soft heart of gold 🙂 ). I imagine that the same can be said by many of you , a certain number of us are here daily both learning and offering any advice that we are able to. Quoting our experiences both successful and failures for others to learn from. For me at the moment just making this post is a distraction from my current bubble but also from the world around me for various reasons.  Its a place not just for teaching and learning but to make others laugh and smile and be part of a community. I would even go so far as to say we are a team, supporting and encouraging each other when needed and when we are down, my own situation with my mum being a perfect example of everyone's kindness. Thats the soppy bit out of the way 🙂. So my mum has been moved to a brand new facility after making amazing progress with her speech and word recognition in hospital ( poor mum has had to suffer my company and my teaching to the full extent of her visiting hours barring one day off for me that my sister insisted upon ) her consultant calls my mum his medical miracle 🙂, and will be starting her intensive speech rehab today after her initial assessment. Things I've learned about having a stroke, and I'd really like everyone to take note of the causes and outcomes of having one. Please do your own research I am a joiner and not a doctor 🙂, i just want to make everyone aware and just get checked out if you notice anything in yourself that you are unsure about, any risk of having one can be reduced with either medical intervention or/and a change of lifestyle ( which would be my own preference in an attempt to limit my risk, something i have now noticed in myself ). I do know a few of you here have experience but this is what i have become aware of and how it has affected my mum and me. First i want to touch on the effects of a stroke, not only to the sufferer but to the whole family, we all know how dementia affects lives. A stroke effecting language is almost instant non aggressive dementia. Like being in a foreign country where you can no longer read, write or speak to someone without some form of very basic sign language gesturing ( when annoyed i think everyone understands the middle finger ). But a stroke can affect movement ( fortunately my mum is virtually unaffected with her mobility, the nurses can't believe she is 87 and just had a stroke, she's like bloody Supergran, in fact she is a great great grandmother to 2 toddlers ) . Improvement after a stroke carries on for years afterwards, but from what i understand and now believe after being with my mum almost every day since it happened for 7 hours a day, language rehab should be started as soon as possible when the patient is out of danger and physically able. The brain is ready and set to go and rewire itself soon after injury, in a similar ready state to young children ( when we say kids brains absorb information like a sponge, thats pretty much true in early stroke patients) After the first few weeks maybe a couple of months things start to slow down and lesser progression carries on for the years following . After a day she could manage only one word, which was my cue to get on her back and start pushing her progress. Day two i wanted to see how capable she was so i had her writing on a whiteboard ( it wasn't great tbh ) . Day 3 and until she left the hospital most time with her was spent on picture/word recognition on my laptop, picture books, some writing and teaching her to play cards again ( i refrained from gambling for real money, though i was tempted, as I'm  pretty good at poker , she has a few bob and i have space for another watchmakers lathe in my watchroom 🙂 ) Now i suppose i have to back off as the rehab place is fairly intense focused and visiting times are crap as they interfere with all the physio and rehab going on . So i only have 2 hours max a day with her sometimes only 1 if her grandkids want to visit, but she is in good hands and i know she will get as much help as she needs , and as difficult as it is to admit i probably need a bit of a break and distract myself. I'll end this post for now but i want to come back and talk about what caused this and hopefully remind some of you to think about how we live , what to do in the event of a stroke and how we can lower our risk. I'm not a pussy by any means and very little frightens me, but seeing this first hand has put the fear of god into me if i ever had to suffer the outcome of a stroke. My mum is a tough old cookie and i imagine i will be just as tough, but watching the frustration on her face when trying to communicate completely tore my heart into pieces.  Please dont let this happen to you, do everything you can to avoid it, I'll come back soon to talk more about as long as everyone is ok with it, take care for now x
    • The fact that you have witnessed coils of the hairspring clinging or sticking together explains why the watch is running so fast.  If you reduce the length of a hairspring, the watch will run faster. When hairspring coils stick or cling together, this effectively reduces the active length of the hairspring, so the watch runs fast.  As nevenbekriev has said, the most likely culprit here is oil or other contamination on the hairspring causing coils to stick together. Cleaning the hairspring as he describes will solve the problem. Occasionally the contamination causing the hairspring coils to stick can be very stubborn to remove, in which case I suggest ultrasonic cleaning in acetone, naphtha or a commercial watch cleaning solution. Magnetism can also cause coils of the hairspring to stick together, if the hairspring is made of an alloy that can be magnetised. Finally, your watch has what is called a pin pallet escapement. They are considered to be less refined, but quite rugged compared to a traditional Swiss lever escapement. They are quite forgiving. They do require lubrication, if you haven’t done so already, find instructions for lubrication of these escapements to get optimal performance from this watch. Hope this helps, Mark
    • Murks, In theory, yes. For example I have a Seiko dress watch (dress style case) with a 6309 movement in it which I would not take diving, similarly, I have a Seiko divers watch with the same movement in it (6309) which is a diving watch. The only difference is the case (and crown sealing system), the diving watch case is made for diving due to it's more robust seal system on the case and its a more rugged design. Seiko 6309 divers watch: Seiko 6309 dress watch:
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