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To work on clocks safely a spring winder is a useful tool when replacing broken springs, expensive to buy but quite sraightforward to make. If you need one I have the plans somewhere. I built two and a third partially done.   Cheers 

As also are letdown tools for the removal of power again simple enough to make.

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As Olh hippy said alarm clocks are a basic movement and not to be dismissed as training pieces. Although the mainspring doesn’t need a winder it still needs treating with respect as it can still give nasty cuts and the use of clamps is recommended.

Will look up the plans Richard, and pass then on.

Hi Richard,  just type in google  how to make a clock mainspring winder.  There seems to be a lot on the web now so plenty of designs to choose from.  a cheap let down tool is a metal tube with a slot cut in the end to fit over the actual key fitted into a handle , and by releasing the click and allowing the handle . to slip through the hand with enough force to have a braking action on the tube this will allow the spring to un wind under tension.  You may wish to purchase the retaining shells or a set of clamps or maybe even make your own shells as you need them/        cheers

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A time piece with pendulum. You will need a mainspring winder. Most clocks have the springs in barrels apart from American clocks. Before I go any further I'm just going to look on ebay and see what I think would be best for you to start with.  

Not much in just a timepiece. I have found these apart from one the rest are strikes but they are all working and not to expensive. I can help you with any of these it will not be a problem. 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304830524278?hash=item46f950ab76:g:yYYAAOSw3-pkB2yx&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAwAvPQit9ZbKPrlnlP2uJJnfwyxQLyr%2FIhkpDbk4DNLsQI%2FUI%2BtYPZ4yV4VHMwYi%2BkeX5xd%2BpGo%2BvDZxn8VVchcWSC%2B32PXaaxt2Y76CZx%2FejnYTVK%2Fe7I38P1YPdaMfdiIsETi1yixsK6%2Bd2i7YIHkOqgL4nOOOYw1L2c9piDkFsbx3rVNJ%2ByhS02GNpxgEghABwFUpHIjeWL8iANMiGo3%2Ba2h4B6mQ4Wi6h%2FWM9En67l2qzebZzTT9m7%2F8LyhVGRQ%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR9bWwZ7fYQ

 

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4 hours ago, oldhippy said:

A time piece with pendulum. You will need a mainspring winder. Most clocks have the springs in barrels apart from American clocks. Before I go any further I'm just going to look on ebay and see what I think would be best for you to start with.  

Not much in just a timepiece. I have found these apart from one the rest are strikes but they are all working and not to expensive. I can help you with any of these it will not be a problem. 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304830524278?hash=item46f950ab76:g:yYYAAOSw3-pkB2yx&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAwAvPQit9ZbKPrlnlP2uJJnfwyxQLyr%2FIhkpDbk4DNLsQI%2FUI%2BtYPZ4yV4VHMwYi%2BkeX5xd%2BpGo%2BvDZxn8VVchcWSC%2B32PXaaxt2Y76CZx%2FejnYTVK%2Fe7I38P1YPdaMfdiIsETi1yixsK6%2Bd2i7YIHkOqgL4nOOOYw1L2c9piDkFsbx3rVNJ%2ByhS02GNpxgEghABwFUpHIjeWL8iANMiGo3%2Ba2h4B6mQ4Wi6h%2FWM9En67l2qzebZzTT9m7%2F8LyhVGRQ%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR9bWwZ7fYQ

 

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Bought this one . £22.50. No doubt I'll need lot's of help but I'll do some research before asking the forum. 

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Hi all

Recently watched an episode of Repair Shop where the resident clock repairer Steve Fletcher whom is  certified repairer install a main spring in a barrel  by hand, which i have have myself, but only for my own clocks before buying a main spring winder. OI really don't understand how these programs can show bad practice.

 

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40 minutes ago, Martyd said:

Hi all

Recently watched an episode of Repair Shop where the resident clock repairer Steve Fletcher whom is  certified repairer install a main spring in a barrel  by hand, which i have have myself, but only for my own clocks before buying a main spring winder. OI really don't understand how these programs can show bad practice.

 

Really? Which episode was that?

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I know the feeling there are some butchers on Youtube, many should never be near a clock. The one that I'm always rattling his cage is someone called Scottie now he really is a test, he takes movements to pieces but never shows the actual repair then he films putting the movement back together, and he never replies to my questions. 

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31 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

I know the feeling there are some butchers on Youtube, many should never be near a clock. The one that I'm always rattling his cage is someone called Scottie now he really is a test, he takes movements to pieces but never shows the actual repair then he films putting the movement back together, and he never replies to my questions. 

Yes i know what you mean about Scottie, he always just takes them apart cleans them mentions about putting in new bushes, puts them back together and hey presto they are working even on a Westminister chime he recently worked on. And now he has members paying him.

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The only person I recommend on Youtube is  Tommy Jobson, but he is for the very advanced clockmaker. You might like to take a look at what he does. I love watching him because a lot of what he shows is what I did many years ago. I'll have a look on the net and see what I can find. You can always ask me for help and advice I like helping. 

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I have received my clock. I know all of you will give me as much help as necessary but I need to help myself before asking for advice.  My first step is to learn the parts, next step to understand if there are any pit falls to disassembly, finally reassembly and case restoration.  

Where's the best place to learn the anatomy of the clock?  Any pit falls to disassembly? Further questions to follow. 

7 hours ago, oldhippy said:

The only person I recommend on Youtube is  Tommy Jobson, but he is for the very advanced clockmaker. You might like to take a look at what he does. I love watching him because a lot of what he shows is what I did many years ago. I'll have a look on the net and see what I can find. You can always ask me for help and advice I like helping. 

 

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