Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Hi All

Couldn't find a forum called "proud moments" but this is as good as any 🙂. New 6497 movement (Seagull ST36), stripped, cleaned, lubricated and reassembled. then regulated - quite well too! Sourced a case, dial, hands and strap and built my own watch.  I'm sure many have done it but feels good to have something I created!  Strap was delivered today but I wasn't home so it's at the post office! To be worn tomorrow! Simple, smart and cheap! Very satisfying.

IMG_5065.jpg

IMG_5066.jpg

  • Like 8
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 3/2/2023 at 6:04 AM, Jonno65 said:

6497

couple minor little technical points it's not a 6497 but it's a 6497-2.  The reason I'm pointing this out is that both the 6497 and the other version have a different lift angle and the  the fault of the machine 52° I believe there both 44° I don't think it's going to change much.

then one of the nice thing is about servicing your own watch and wearing it is you get to see the effect of time versus your servicing methods. I would keep a record of what it looks like now in a few months or weeks depending on how impatient you are check it again C of amplitudes doing see how the watches doing. It's always interesting of the look at a watch that you've serviced years later the find it may be something you did or did not do wasn't quite right. Or maybe you'll turn out just fine.

Then I like the choice of your dial and hands they look quite nice very readable. I have a similar movement in a wristwatch case skeleton the highest somebody gave it to me and the hands are so the end and lack contrast with the movement that it's a very hard watch to  see what the time is.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 3/2/2023 at 2:04 PM, Jonno65 said:

Hi All

Couldn't find a forum called "proud moments" but this is as good as any 🙂. New 6497 movement (Seagull ST36), stripped, cleaned, lubricated and reassembled. then regulated - quite well too! Sourced a case, dial, hands and strap and built my own watch.  I'm sure many have done it but feels good to have something I created!  Strap was delivered today but I wasn't home so it's at the post office! To be worn tomorrow! Simple, smart and cheap! Very satisfying.

IMG_5065.jpg

IMG_5066.jpg

Very nice, you deserve to be proud. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 hours ago, JohnR725 said:

couple minor little technical points it's not a 6497 but it's a 6497-2.  The reason I'm pointing this out is that both the 6497 and the other version have a different lift angle and the  the fault of the machine 52° I believe there both 44° I don't think it's going to change much.

Thanks John, yes your quite right, I forgot it should be set to 44. It’s that default 52’ setting! Gets me every time!

yes I’m curious how it stands the test of time (pun intended!).

Appreciate the feedback.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Jonno65 said:

Gets me every time!

yes I’m curious how it stands the test of time (pun intended!).

it's one of the  minor issues with the Chinese timing machine it doesn't remember where you put the settings. Like to be nice to have the lift angle to correspond to the watch are working on. Or it would be nice to keep the averaging time to something a little longer than what it defaults to

ideally what would be nice is to have a Journal of your watches. Write down the problems you found with the watch what you did the fix the problem is how it looked afterwords the outcome in this case you have a picture of it and then what the watch looks like over time. Because over time is the real test of whether you did good or bad.

 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...

@Jonno65, can you tell me where you bough the case (and item number), and all that good stuff?  I'm a little ways behind you in doing something similar.  I have a new ST36 movement (same as yours) but I am in the process or learning how to strip it down, clean it, lube it and then reassemble it.  I would like to then put in into something so I can wear it.  I do like the Flieger style look that you have going with yours, so that is why I am asking.

One minor issue I had was the click spring decided to liberate itself, so I am in the process of trying to find another one.

Edited by kd8tzc
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

Hi kd8tzc

I will dig out the information and post here shortly. Apologies for the delay in replying, I haven't been on here for a while.  I did have a spring liberate (haha) itself too but used my neodymium magnet to summon it back into this dimension - worked a treat.  Doesn't work for broken screws though!

If you search for ST36 case and the right size dial - thats a good start.  I have to say that getting the seconds hand on was a real pain in the butt.

The dial is an Aviator style.  Watch this space.

Jon

On 3/24/2023 at 5:46 AM, kd8tzc said:

@Jonno65, can you tell me where you bough the case (and item number), and all that good stuff?  I'm a little ways behind you in doing something similar.  I have a new ST36 movement (same as yours) but I am in the process or learning how to strip it down, clean it, lube it and then reassemble it.  I would like to then put in into something so I can wear it.  I do like the Flieger style look that you have going with yours, so that is why I am asking.

One minor issue I had was the click spring decided to liberate itself, so I am in the process of trying to find another one.

Correction to the above - search for 6497 case and dial but make sure to select the dial to suit the seconds hand at the 9 o'clock position, not 6 o'clock (assuming thats the movement you have), just check before ordering.  Also - the advice I was given here is just to buy another movement rather than try and find a part, which was good advice to be honest.  I now have a spare movement minus a screw and the broken part in the barrel bridge!

Case:

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/373527847827

Case & Hands:

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/385140205713

Watch band:

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/293941450235?var=592641354006

The watch is still keeping great time by the way!

Cheers and good luck (let me know how you go) 

Jon

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...
On 3/2/2023 at 3:04 PM, Jonno65 said:

Hi All

Couldn't find a forum called "proud moments" but this is as good as any 🙂. New 6497 movement (Seagull ST36), stripped, cleaned, lubricated and reassembled. then regulated - quite well too! Sourced a case, dial, hands and strap and built my own watch.  I'm sure many have done it but feels good to have something I created!  Strap was delivered today but I wasn't home so it's at the post office! To be worn tomorrow! Simple, smart and cheap! Very satisfying.

IMG_5065.jpg

 

 

Well done! You can be proud.

For your own learning and "service quality review", it would be important to measure amplitude etc BEFORE the service and then compare with AFTER.

You'll loose quite a few degrees of amplitude when you correct the setting for the lift angle from 52° to 44°, maybe minus 20-30 degrees. HOWEVER, it seems that you positioned the holder of the timegrapher / the watch somehow sideways (half dial up, half '6' down)...  if you put it in a proper dial up/horizontal position, you'll get back some of those degrees 😉

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.



  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Topics

  • Posts

    • I picked up a similar amount of these jewels some years ago in a watch and clock fair. Every now and then they come in handy. This week I've got a rubbed in bombe jewel in the balance cock that is cracked and needs replacing. Very handy to have a vintage assortment of these type of jewels!
    • Great diagram with the teeth and pinion count. Simple way to reduce the speed of the hour wheel by the 12:1 minute wheel. Genius and yet so simple. Always good to reinforce the principal by what you have done in your drawing. Keep doing that. I had a drawing on my wall for years showing me this which is very similar to the drawing you have done. Here's a formula to work out the beats per hour of a watch movement. The movement's BPH is dictated by the wheel teeth and pinion count and the hairspring being vibrated to the correct BPH by finding the pinning up point on the hairspring using a vibrating tool.  The reason in the formula there is X2 on the top line is because there are two pallet stones.
    • So I just wanted to say "thank you" again.  The angle is the key bit it seems and yes, it did basically just fall, or float, back into position when I got it lined up just right. I had meant to add that now that I see how it goes in, I totally see how it came out in the first place, and that whomever cloned the original movement didn't pay much attention to the fine details around the setting or how it interfaces with the balance cock or the "rings" on the regulator and/or stud carrier arms.
    • Well I’ve never seen the make before and cannot find any info, I haven’t got it just yet it’s been left to me among a 1970’s sea master and a mid size yeoman. But if anyone has any information on this one please feel free to enlighten me, many thanks 
×
×
  • Create New...