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Hello all you watchmaking peeps, i trust you are happy and in good health.  Well I'm back, missed me ? Please don't all sigh at once. Work commitments has kept me busy and my watch repair interest had to take a temporary back seat. But its now time to return to it with a vengeance. Starting with my latest acquisition of vintage tools. Nothing spectacular but some food for thought for beginners on a budget and maybe some interest and a question or two for the more advanced and pros if they would indulge me. So lets start with a source and a figure of cost. My favourite buying site Ebay, this can be a waiting game for the right tool at the right price. Which can payoff if you are like me, I'm never in a rush to buy anything in particular. But always keep an eye out for something i like and might use for when my skill set improves. I never get into a bidding war, i decide what i want to pay long before the auction ends and submit that figure around 6 seconds before the auction ends ( known as sniping, unethical ? As has been discussed before, you have to play the game same as everone else). These are actually two ebay purchases, one at 6 quid and one at 14 quid so including postage came to around 24 as they were the same seller and he combined the postage for me. The majority of the two buys are cutting broaches and files. A lot of large sized broaches probably for clocks and some smaller ones for watches. Some nice part making files, names include stubbs, favourite and one the oldtimers may know Gantoine Glardon. A graver and a few homemade gravers from square files handles i think . Something of particular interest to me is a pivot burnisher with the name David Borlo A. Vallorbe. Also in the bundle is a solid ss one piece case knive, love this as it has a cracking Marvin logo on it. An unusual staking block with v slots at each end. Three agate oil cups that i am keen to replace the plastic ones i have been using, since reading some discussion regarding some plastic components can leach into the oils placed in them. And lastly the quiz tool that has 3 accessories slid onto the handle shaft. Happy reading and any input would be welcomed and appreciated thank you.

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On 2/4/2023 at 1:47 AM, rehajm said:

I really like those wooden oil pots!

The agate is stable for the oils compared to some plastics that can be hit and miss. Sometimes they crop up in tool job lots.

On 2/3/2023 at 8:50 PM, watchweasol said:

Hi NEW.  A nice little hand full there for the right price,  well done

Thanks WW I need to get my finger out and find out what the mysery tool is for.

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On 2/3/2023 at 12:05 PM, Neverenoughwatches said:

And lastly the quiz tool that has 3 accessories slid onto the handle shaft

What you mean by Mystery tool it looks like something that's in my bench at work.

 

On 2/3/2023 at 5:47 PM, rehajm said:

I really like those wooden oil pots!

Those personally are my favorite kind either with the agates if you can find them or glass. I like that might well cup next to whatever I'm wailing and then set it back when I'm through.

Looking at the picture I know who stole all my little reamers from work they got sold in another country on eBay. Yes I work at a very peculiar place where personal tools are not very personal. The other day looking for a small reamer apparently I have no small reamers left anymore they've been spirited away to parts unknown.

It would help on the mystery tool if you unscrew the end piece so everyone can see the holes in the end and then show the end of the tool. I suppose was really nice and find a vintage catalog and find your picture of the thing but do I really want to be that nice? Of course I find the Log of vintage tools. Okay I found the link to the tool catalog a little light reading.

I've attached an image the mystery is gone how sad. So you can use that the finished the other end of the screw providing you have enough tips to fit the right size which typically I don't.

 

https://archive.org/details/20thcenturycatal00purd/mode/2up

 

 

 

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21 minutes ago, JohnR725 said:

What you mean by Mystery tool it looks like something that's in my bench at work

Haha. Maybe not to you John but it is to me at the moment. Are you going to make me work for the answer ? 🙂. I'm  not affraid of hard work John, set me a time limit and I'll try to beat it.

1 minute ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

Haha. Maybe not to you John but it is to me at the moment. Are you going to make me work for the answer ? 🙂. I'm  not affraid of hard work John, set me a time limit and I'll try to beat it.

Bugger i didnt read the rest i thought that was regarding the oilpots. Thanks John 👍, i was looking forward to the challenge next time maybe .

37 minutes ago, JohnR725 said:

Looking at the picture I know who stole all my little reamers from work they got sold in another country on eBay. Yes I work at a very peculiar place where personal tools are not very personal. The other day looking for a small reamer apparently I have no small reamers left anymore they've been spirited away to parts unknown.

Haha you do make me laugh John. Post me your address and i will send you some 🙂,  i have lots now.

1 hour ago, JohnR725 said:

I've attached an image the mystery is gone how sad. So you can use that the finished the other end of the screw providing you have enough tips to fit the right size which typically I don't.

So typically to dress, shape, shorten the tip of a screw. I now owe you a few beers/coffees John .

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You got a couple of nice buys with good names that produce quality tools, i like you keep an eye on ebay hoping to pick up a quality tool to build up my small collection, the ones i've bid on seem to sell for silly money on auction, or other used tools are listed with buy it now price at more than you can buy them new, i don't know if the high prices are just a UK thing.

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39 minutes ago, valleyguy said:

You got a couple of nice buys with good names that produce quality tools, i like you keep an eye on ebay hoping to pick up a quality tool to build up my small collection, the ones i've bid on seem to sell for silly money on auction, or other used tools are listed with buy it now price at more than you can buy them new, i don't know if the high prices are just a UK thing.

Ah- ha VG, i see i have ebay competition in you my friend 😉. Most of my tools are covered now for the time being, its mostly really nice and or really expensive vintage tools that get my juices flowing. Give me your list of what you are after and i will let you know if i spot something you might be interested in. 

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49 minutes ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

Not sure if the brass piece is part of the tool,

The mystery brass part is not on the catalog page. It's also not included with my tool but it might still have some unknown purpose maybe it's used to hold the tool somehow for some reason that I can't think of.

 

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1 hour ago, JohnR725 said:

The mystery brass part is not on the catalog page. It's also not included with my tool but it might still have some unknown purpose maybe it's used to hold the tool somehow for some reason that I can't think of.

 

Maybe used to fix the tool into watchmakers vice ? Possibly home made, and brass to lessen wear on the shaft .

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