Willem1961

[Willem1961]

Hello everyone my name is Willem and new on this forum. I already made a small introduction about how I get involved with the seiko arctura kinetic watch a 5m42-0e69 inherited from my father. At first not really liked it and now I have several seiko watches all designed by Jorg Hysek. My latest watch is a 5m42-0e39 it is running but doesn’t hold charge. Thought it needed a new battery but seiko says the clockwork is using to much battery and strains the battery they adviced my a new clockwork. I came to this forum because of a YouTube video from Mark!!! In this video he replaces a battery and a generating rotor. Now I think this could be the problem with the 0e39. Can someone explain to me if you replace a battery which already is charged what could be the reason the battery strains when watch is not been worn. Could this be a generating rotor problem?

[watchweasol]

Hello and welcome to the forum,  The problem could be the circuit board ,not delivering the charge to the cell or the mechanism being dirty/faulty  so the the cell has to deliver more power to the movement and therefore drains the cell quicker, you need to check the current consumption on the movement  7Micro amps.          Technical document attached.

5M42A_5M43A.pdf

[Willem1961]

Thank you sir for this advice!! I’ve already been told that the watch maybe needs a service and I am gonna discuss this with a watchmaker I am not qualified to do this myself. Very much appreciated. 

[Willem1961]

I am very honored as a non watchmaker to be accepted here on this forum I just a person who realize how magnificent and fascinating it is how a watch could be made and be developed. A lot of  people only look at there wrist  to see what time it is and that’s it. 
As I already mentioned it started with my fathers watch a seiko 5m42-0e69 with a broken strap bought donor watches just for the strap. Than gave these watches a second change and sober he fever started. Like to show you my collection. 

[watchweasol]

Hi Thankyou for showing your collection They are a nice collection of stylish watches, like the simplistic design and the colour interaction on the bracelets, different.

[Willem1961]

Thank you again sir. The red strap is a prototype to see if the 3D drowning worked out the material is TPU. I glue all the broken parts together from the original strap for the drowning. The blue strap was just an idea because this watch has some blue items on the dial. The green straps also an idea because the numbers on the dial glow up in a darker area and offcourse the original color black. Next project is trying a silicon like material for the strap. I thought if the 5m42-0e40 have colored straps why don’t try this with the 5M42-0e60/69 series. 

According the watch you gave me information for did you ever came across parts broken or worn that can be the reason it’s using to much energy?

[watchweasol]

Hi  The usual reason for the high drain is dirt and or congealed oil, In some cases the oil used is synthetic but again it picks up minute dirt particles and as such places more strain on the watch and it has to use more energy to overcome the obstruction. So to be sure the watch needs to be cleaned and tested.

[Willem1961]

Good evening guy’s here a small updat about the 5M42-0e39 with a battery problem. The seiko repair center wanted it to replace the clockwork because it was draining the battery. Watchweasol on this forum wrote me dirt could be the problem and so it was. A member on a Dutch forum afford me to have a look. He noticed that the watch was not being openend for quiet some time so how did seiko manage to know what was the problem. Strange!!! This member saw that there was oxidation on the stem and parts of this oxidation  attracted  to magnetic parts inside the clockwork. Cleaned it replaced a part changed the battery and bingo. I show you 2 pictures the first picture you see metal and the second picture you see 2 circles lowest circle oxidation part he replaced highest circle the oxidation stem. 

Special thanks to watchweasol

[watchweasol]

Glad it all turned out ok,  help is what we do.

[JohnR725]

On 9/25/2022 at 11:02 AM, Willem1961 said:

Thought it needed a new battery but seiko says the clockwork is using to much battery and strains the battery they adviced my a new clockwork.

but they're really saying is they do limited testing and they just say replace the module. Because of they do detailed testing it takes a lot of time and effort and they would have to charge you for that.

So not breaking down what's causing the battery to be discharged too fast. This means defective circuits that's not working right. Or if moisture's gotten into the watch and gets on the circuit board that would be a problem. Usually have to gear train is blocked it will cause an increase drain the watch will run and that could be what's going on. They just evaluated and said basically it's not running replace the watch you going to take the watch apart into a proper evaluation rather than guessing what it is. Unfortunately with electronic watches it does require test equipment beyond normal watch repair. This is why if they can they would just swap the movement and be done with

[Neverenoughwatches]

2 hours ago, Willem1961 said:

Good evening guy’s here a small updat about the 5M42-0e39 with a battery problem. The seiko repair center wanted it to replace the clockwork because it was draining the battery. Watchweasol on this forum wrote me dirt could be the problem and so it was. A member on a Dutch forum afford me to have a look. He noticed that the watch was not being openend for quiet some time so how did seiko manage to know what was the problem. Strange!!! This member saw that there was oxidation on the stem and parts of this oxidation  attracted  to magnetic parts inside the clockwork. Cleaned it replaced a part changed the battery and bingo. I show you 2 pictures the first picture you see metal and the second picture you see 2 circles lowest circle oxidation part he replaced highest circle the oxidation stem. 

Special thanks to watchweasol

Pleased for you sunshine.  No bad advice from our WW. He's a gem