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The escapement is designed to run at a given speed   and everything is tuned to produce that speed. Trying to drive it beyond its mechanical limits will lead to breakage of the escapement parts lilkey the pallet and rollerjewels as they are rhe most fragile part of the escapement.

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46 minutes ago, watchweasol said:

The escapement is designed to run at a given speed   and everything is tuned to produce that speed. Trying to drive it beyond its mechanical limits will lead to breakage of the escapement parts lilkey the pallet and rollerjewels as they are rhe most fragile part of the escapement.

Hi WW. Nice to have you back. Would the watch run faster if the bph was higher ?

2 hours ago, Snigdha said:

Can the speed of automatic watch be increased by 2.5times

Hi snigdha. What is your reasoning for wanting to do this ?

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1 hour ago, Nibbler said:

just modify the dial to go from 0 - 30 instead of 0 - 

 

20 minutes ago, RichardHarris123 said:

Unless anyone correct me, it must run faster. 

Is it April the 1st today ?

2 hours ago, Snigdha said:

Can the speed of automatic watch be increased 

 

2 hours ago, Snigdha said:

Can the speed of automatic watch be increased by 2.5times

Im starting to think a rather suspicious question. Snigdha please tell us more about yourself please 🤔

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I have a suspicious mind and want to know more about the question
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The basics are the design of the movement. All the gearing is calculated to give a set speed at the point of delivery (ie) the escapement and the balance. Lets say we double the strength of the mainsoring for example , all that would happen is that we would end up with  pile of scrap because the geairing and pivots cant stand the torque and it would only take one to break and the domino effect would ruin a good movement. Why. the gear train and pivots are again calculated to carry a given force. pushed too far = disaster.  Now letts imagine we hve a beefed up gear train, the weak point is then the escapement and either the pallet of balance packs in , again disasler. But if you redesign the gear train , alter the circumference and tooth count of the wheels tat would alter the speed but there must be a finite limit you can reach before the balance and pallet break down. so in order to double the speed you would need to redesign the watch from the bottom up . You need to source a movemnt with the required speed you want, that way you  know its designed to do the job and is comfortable running at the given speed.

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5 hours ago, Snigdha said:

Can the speed of automatic watch be increased

The speed of a specific movement is integral to the design.

You can't take an 18,000 vph watch and cause it to run at 45,000 vph.

Tag apparently has one that runs at 1000Hz but at what point do you resort to atomic clocks?

You might read this:

https://www.montredo.com/the-fastest-watches-in-the-world-movements-with-oscillating-frequencies-far-beyond-4-hz/

 

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16 hours ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

Hi WW. Nice to have you back. Would the watch run faster if the bph was higher ?

Hi snigdha. What is your reasoning for wanting to do this ?

Hi. We are diamond jewellery and watch company based in delhi,India. We are trying a new product thats why curious.

16 hours ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

 

Is it April the 1st today ?

 

Im starting to think a rather suspicious question. Snigdha please tell us more about yourself please 🤔

Hi. we are a diamond Jewellery and watches company based in Delhi, India. We are trying a new product thats why curious.

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24 minutes ago, Snigdha said:

Hi. We are diamond jewellery and watch company based in delhi,India. We are trying a new product thats why curious.

Hi. we are a diamond Jewellery and watches company based in Delhi, India. We are trying a new product thats why curious.

Okay 👍 

25 minutes ago, Snigdha said:

Hi. We are diamond jewellery and watch company based in delhi,India. We are trying a new product thats why curious.

Hi. we are a diamond Jewellery and watches company based in Delhi, India. We are trying a new product thats why curious.

Can you give anymore details or is it top secret  ?

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5 minutes ago, RichardHarris123 said:

Attach it to a rocket, they reach speeds of at least 7 miles per second. 

Rich what have you been reading ? Rockets and worm holes, are you studying space exploration and quantum physics mate 🥱

42 minutes ago, Snigdha said:

Hi. We are diamond jewellery and watch company based in delhi,India. We are trying a new product thats why curious.

Hi. we are a diamond Jewellery and watches company based in Delhi, India. We are trying a new product thats why curious.

I have to say I'm still kind of suspicious 🤔 

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