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All six watches I picked up from ebay for ten bucks, all six are Elgin movements with faces only, a couple have case backs. All say "Elgin" only on the front except the "Elgin De Luxe"

top to bottom left to right models 554, 541, 541, none, none, 541. The two with no model only say Elgin USA, 15 jewels, and the serial number. 

Just curious what people can tell me about these, possibly how to identify compatible cases and hands to After I learn about fixing them I can possibly get them in cases and restored. 

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1 hour ago, Nucejoe said:

Ladies watches are no ideal collectible pieces and I doubt if you can find someone to wear one when fixed, so you shouldn't spend more money on these, I just enjoy practing on them

Unfortunately agri-ladies watches just have no value except? The only value they have is their gold or silver cases for scrap otherwise for the most part almost nobody seems to want them at all which is sad. But it just seems to be the way it is you might build a fixed sum up and give him the ways to your relatives but that's about the extent of it may be if you're lucky

5 hours ago, AgedRebel said:

554,

This one is a standard size big enough that you should find a wristwatch case somewhere on the eBay

http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&0&2uswk&Elgin_554

Even though it's the pocket watch database if there's a serial number you might be look it up may be perhaps

https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/

The next link is interesting it has a bunch of Elgin stuff and if you have the grade you get a little information like these watches are old finding parts might be a challenge

https://www.elgin.watch/enwco/elgin-movement-grades/

 

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