Jump to content

Hublot Ultra Thin Classic Fusion - Authenticity


Recommended Posts

Hi everyone, would like to thank in advance to members for always providing excellent advice. 

I recently bought a Pre-Owned Hublot classic fusion watch, I was wondering if anyone can tell any tell-tale sings of it not being authentic. So far I couldn't locate any. 

I did send the serial number to Hublot and they confirmed that serial number is registered to the right model. 

The pics I am sharing are from the seller, I will receive the watch tomorrow, if pics of any specific parts will help then I will share that Screenshot_20210918-234448_2.thumb.jpg.d88fceae7ac9cecbdff1ee43a2d23eda.jpgas well. Screenshot_20210919-000254_2.thumb.jpg.af632aef00e2699fc8726828cacbbf49.jpg

Screenshot_20210918-234520_2.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Rishah said:

I recently bought a Pre-Owned Hublot classic fusion watch, I was wondering if anyone can tell any tell-tale sings of it not being authentic.

That seems a difficult mov.t to counterfeit, so if you can't find any on the usual selling platform, that means "they" gave up on even trying.

 

2 hours ago, Rishah said:

The pics I am sharing are from the seller,

Onw would think that when selling such an expensive watch, much better pictures would be made available, but hey..

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The obvious question is ... how much are you buying this for?!

This is a limited edition and expensive watch. A genuine one is going to set you back about $14,000 https://www.chrono24.com/hublot/classic-fusion-classico-titanium-ultra-thin-skeleton-42mm-new--id7520197.htm

Or you can get a very convincing fake for $149 http://www.replicawatchreport.co/hublot-classic-fusion-classico-ultra-thin-skeleton-titanium-545-nx-0170-lr

What end of this spectrum are you? And if you can afford, say, $9,000 because that's a second hand price from your seller would you really be handing that amount of money over if you were unsure?

If it seems too good to be true..

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 hours ago, WatchMaker said:

That is what I didn't looked for, so we know that this model is in fact being counterfeited. Although the back is not shown perhaps because isn't very convincingl. 

The OP said the seller "disclosed" the serial number, that wouldn't be enough for me, i would ask to see it in two clear, high res pictures taken from different angles. Then it could be that the fakers use one or few correct numbers and count on the Maison customer service not to keep records of the related inquiries. 

Also worth to mention the apparent lack of box and papers as another bad sign. 

 

11 hours ago, WatchMaker said:

If it seems too good to be true..

Exactly. Low priced, poorly presented genuine items may not be just from desperate sellers but stolen goods. Which for any honest person is a worse than purchasing a fake.
Theft victims sometimes share the S/N of their watches on forums and presumably with the maker, but surely the vast majority doesn't. So that any unsuspecting Authorized Dealer could even certify the authenticity of a stolen watch. That's wrond and unjust really.

In the end, the old saying is best guidance: buy the seller. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, jdm said:

so we know that this model is in fact being counterfeited

Oh yes! Here are some more: https://www.enstock2e.top/products.aspx?cname=hublot+classic+fusion+ultra+thin+skeleton

Picture of the back of one too from this page. Very convincing for $82.

image.png.91649856bdf29b15563491c3d1e136d8.png

The fact the OP didn't post a link to the selling site; that the obvious question on selling price has been ignored; and there are clearly fakes out there all screams alarm bells. 

@Rishah- did you get your watch? how much was it? is it $???? well spent? is it ticking nicely along at 28,800bph etc?

  • Thanks 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 9/21/2021 at 1:22 AM, Rishah said:

Thanks @Nucejoe, I have posted the query in the Luxury Forum as well.

For others looking at this thread: https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/hublot-ultra-thin-classic-fusion-authenticity.5342158/

I think our forum has been slightly more constructive/polite. But we all genuinely hope Rishah you haven't been duped. 👍

Edited by WatchMaker
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, WatchMaker said:

I think our forum has been slightly more constructive/polite. 

The remarks made on WUS (unacceptable pictures to start) are valid no matter how bluntly made. And I think your and my arguments, plus the good spotting by nucejoe are sound as well. The OP asked after having paid already, how much we may never know. In the end anyone is responsible for his own decisions. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I finally got the watch, unfortunately had been in an office conference for last 2 days. That is why I couldn't update the forum. I was able to get the serial number verified with Hublot Switzerland and I was able to show it to an expert. Everything confirmed its a genuine model. The expert also informed that single winding should last 5 days for the original watch, its been 3 days and its still going good. 

I don't have any more doubts about it being fake. Regarding people being blunt/nasty, don't pay attention to such people. If experts can't provide expert opinion without referencing the price then I honestly believe they are more judgmental than experts.

This forum has always provided me valid info and good technical advice.

Attaching high def pic just for reference. 

1277205657_Camera01.JPG

Camera 04 (2).JPG

Edited by Rishah
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 9/23/2021 at 6:56 PM, Rishah said:

I finally got the watch, unfortunately had been in an office conference for last 2 days. That is why I couldn't update the forum. I was able to get the serial number verified with Hublot Switzerland and I was able to show it to an expert. Everything confirmed its a genuine model. The expert also informed that single winding should last 5 days for the original watch, its been 3 days and its still going good. 

I don't have any more doubts about it being fake. Regarding people being blunt/nasty, don't pay attention to such people. If experts can't provide expert opinion without referencing the price then I honestly believe they are more judgmental than experts.

This forum has always provided me valid info and good technical advice.

Attaching high def pic just for reference. 

1277205657_Camera01.JPG

Camera 04 (2).JPG

 

On 9/22/2021 at 1:47 AM, WatchMaker said:

For others looking at this thread: https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/hublot-ultra-thin-classic-fusion-authenticity.5342158/

I think our forum has been slightly more constructive/polite. But we all genuinely hope Rishah you haven't been duped. 👍

Thanks @WatchMakerfor your kind words, they are rare these days. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.



  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Thank you so much, Hector and CJ. I appreciate the tech sheet and the video. Gasp, I think I will make the attempt. What's the worst that can happen? I think there may be a new balance complete in my future, though.  I'll update the post and let you know the result. R, Frank  
    • So here is the new base (v 2.1), I made it so that the base will fit over and swallow the stump of the hand pusher tool (or at least my clone of the tool), I also reduced the OD of the bottom skirt a little as it looked/felt a little large, here are a few pictures and the fake .pdf file which you need to convert to .zip once downloaded.   The cut-out seen on the below image on the bottom of the base should swallow the OD (40 mm, +0.1 mm tolerance) of the stump and the height of the stump 9.5mm (measured to 9.1mm, but rounded to 9.5mm) - let me know if this works for your tool.   Note, I think you may need to print supports for the new internal shelf created? Here is the fake .pdf for just the FreeCAD base file and 3mf files Modular Movement Holder.pdf Here is the fake pdf for complete set of the new base and ring FreeCAD/3mf files: Modular Movement Holder base and ring v 2.1.pdf However, I'm wondering how often you could use this feature, adding the dial usually increases the OD of the movement, so you would need a new (larger) adapter ring tuned to the OD of the dial and I wouldn't like to grip the dial in any kind of movement holder if It could be avoided for fear of damaging it. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you?
    • Hi Frank, you have dived headlong into the deep end. Hairspring work has to be the scariest thing a newbie has to tackle. Your hairspring appears to be bent and just putting it back into the regulator would not allow the balance to work properly. It might start oscillating but the performance would not be good. The proper thing to do is to unstud the hairspring, remove the hairspring from the balance, reinstall the hairspring on the stud carrier, reshape the endcurve and centre the collet to the balance jewel hole. This challenge would either make you or break you. Hope that you will be able to fix your watch. Welcome to the world of watchmaking.  Watch this video. It think it'll give you an idea of the task ahead. From your 1st photo, I think you have a etachron type stud. Let me see if I can find a video on how to remove it from the arm.
    • Have read of the Tech Sheet attached on the balance section page 12. It may be bent but until you reposition it back in the regulator pins you'll never know. Cheers CJ 4R35B_4R36A.pdf
    • Aloha All, My Seiko 4R35B movement stopped working today. Upon closer inspection, it looks like the balance spring came out of the regulator pin. This is my first time working on a balance. Any advice on how to get this spring repositioned (back to normal)? I'm pretty sure that while adjusting the beat error on this movement, I must have turned the stud (I didn't even know they turned), and the spring eventually fell out.  Will the spring go back to even spacing when it's back in the pin, or does it look bent? Thanks, Frank  
×
×
  • Create New...