Lantern pinion

[Willow]

I have just stripped down a tameside time and strike clock which is badly in need of a clean, when i was looking at the fly which has a lantern pinion the pinion is not fixed to the arbour it can turn freely around the arbour, when i put the fly between the plates and turn the lantern with a tooth pick it turns the fly as it should is this right or should the lantern pinion be fixed to the arbour if that is the case how do i secure it, hope you can understand what i am saying i can post a video if you can't instead of a picture.

[oldhippy]

It should be fixed so use Locktite red. 

[watchweasol]

Hi  Under normal circumstances the pinion would be held friction tight and unable to rotate, There is no other way than what OH has advised, the fly is free running driven from the warning wheel so no torque.

[Willow]

Thanks oldhippy  do i put a small piece either side of the lantern

[oldhippy]

Take the whole lantern part off. Apply the Locktite red then put the lantern back on making sure it's in the right place and leave it doesn't take long for it to bond. If for some reason you need to move it jut apply a little heat, a hair dryer will do the trick. 

[Willow]

Hi i have took the mainsprings out of  the barrels out of the Tameside clock and one of the barrels has a dark substances at the bottom ,which a tried to remove but it wouldn't come off, i just don't know what it is and if i leave it will it have an effect on the spring when i put it back in, any thoughts.

[watchweasol]

Hi  It looks like the solder joint where the ring gear has been fixed to the barrel. A two piece construction,  Give it a rub with wire wool to see if it shines up  if so it will be the solder.

[oldhippy]

What a horrid repair. As watchweasol has said that is solder. 

[Willow]

Just your thoughts on this tameside clock while it seams quite on the forum,on the front plate where hole for the hammer arbour goes ,they have put a piece of brass with what looks like a oil sink, not that i have done a lot of clocks but i have not seen this before and especically on the other tameside clocks i have done i am just wondering if it was just on this type of movement or have you come across this on other clocks yourself. Thanks

[oldhippy]

The benefit of that is so the hammer can be taken out without taking the whole movement apart. That hole needs re-bushing and countersinking to form an oil well. No I haven't come across it before. The movement looks as if someone (cowboy) with bad tools has had a right old go, that nut has nasty marks and the screw its head has had a poor fitting screwdriver on it as the head has nasty burrs on it. 

[Willow]

HI oldhippy can't see how you can take the hammer apart without the plates taken apart the pinion on the arbour dosen't  protrude beyond the plate the part is on the front side is so thin it looks like a hole has been drilled and then countersunk I was wondering about the screws two of them were hard to get off like they might have to be re-threaded

[oldhippy]

Are you sure the screws weren't cross threaded. Looks like someone has done a bad repair using solder on the hammer. The hammer is pinned remove the pin and the hammer should just pull off. How do you get on using those movement holders? do you find they help. I never liked using them they were always in my way.  

[Willow]

Yes they can be a bit of a nuisance falling off and like you say being in the wa,y i don't always use them i keep saying i will make a box or get some tubing, what do you use.

[oldhippy]

I never used anything, apart from a piece of wood for standing movements on when adjusting pallet depth. 

[Willow]

Hi back to this tameside clock when it should strike nine the leaver that goes into the count wheel slot jumps to half nine all the rest hour and half hour are fine any ideas what might cause that to happen.

[oldhippy]

It's still tripping so check the lever and the pin in the wheel and make sure the lever holds the wheel and pin. As it's a count wheel strike are you sure the lever that drops into the count drops right down in the slots and lines up with the wheel with the pin. 

[Willow]

Thanks oldhippy will check that out, it does drop into the slot will check if it lines up with wheel and pin if i can i will post a video of it if need be

[RogerH]

25 minutes ago, Willow said:

Thanks oldhippy will check that out, it does drop into the slot will check if it lines up with wheel and pin if i can i will post a video of it if need be

May be a before and after video......we love that sort of thing!

[Willow]

Hi RogerH tried to  put two video's on but having problems uploading onto hear any advice

[oldhippy]

Have you tried just uploading one video?

[Willow]

Hi oldhippy tried one video but no joy its saying sorry unknown server problem occurred, not had this problem before

[oldhippy]

What format is the video in?

[Willow]

all i know its mp4

[jdm]

4 hours ago, Willow said:

Hi oldhippy tried one video but no joy its saying sorry unknown server problem occurred, not had this problem before

 

3 hours ago, oldhippy said:

What format is the video in?

Have a read of the thread below:

 

[RogerH]

Check the file size. also the type - I believe mp4 is not supported so things like PowerPoint etc may not work. try putting it into a gif.